Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:23 pm  

I'm not going to diss Burgess' exit from us as everyone knew where he was going,
I just think that GH called his bluff and treated him with the same respect that Biff would have done come the seasons end when he would have done the same and rejected the Rhinos contract on offer and would have signed for Souths

At least GH will now have plenty of time to now fill this spot

Regarding Cross
I think that he has been made a scapegoat here

Although not a super star signing from the NRL, i actually believed that he could have played a vital part in our side this season and from what i have seen of him he certainly could have had more input into our side given the chance

I believe that this is Brian McD's decision as both GH and Bluey seemed happy to sign him on did they not?

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:14 pm  

im just off down to the registry office to change my name to burgess.....maybe they will sign me !!..it must be the only reason Souths would sign him cos it certainly isnt his class

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:56 pm  

The Biffs Back wrote:

I'm not going to diss Burgess' exit from us as everyone knew where he was going,
I just think that GH called his bluff and treated him with the same respect that Biff would have done come the seasons end when he would have done the same and rejected the Rhinos contract on offer and would have signed for Souths

Last time I checked it was 2011. So does it really matter what Burgess was going to do in 2012 and beyond and did he deserve to be sidelined (if that is what happened) because of that future decision?

I imagine there has been something more to it than just his previously stated desire to go to the NRL after his current contract expires, which obviously he is perfectly entitled to do.

Whatever has happened it's yesterday's news and he's now joined the ranks of players that used to play for Leeds.

Luke Burgess: Played 11 + 70, Tries 6, Points 24.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:40 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

On the haste - it has only been announced on Friday that Luke was free to go - so South's seeing his position and with a view to the whole dynamic offered him a quick way out. What choice had he got either stay at Leeds and never play and be miserable or go have some fun in Sydney with his brothers - I could make a decision like - given the circumstances - in 5 minutes at most

Didn't Burgess meet with Russell Crowe in York for dinner at the start of June after which the whole thing was a done deal?

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:28 am  

MjM wrote:

Didn't Burgess meet with Russell Crowe in York for dinner at the start of June after which the whole thing was a done deal?

I have no idea - what I find odd - if Hetherington knew Burgess was off to Australia why did he even make him an offer? seems a waste of time and effort?

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:59 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

I have no idea - what I find odd - if Hetherington knew Burgess was off to Australia why did he even make him an offer? seems a waste of time and effort?

Maybe hoping he could persuade him to change his mind? Lukes best years are ahead of him, no doubt. He becomes yet another prop who starts his career with Leeds but leaves before we see the true potential. Joining Anderson, Fozzard, Carvell, Ward, Dowes, Scruton et al

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:13 am  

AJC wrote:

Maybe hoping he could persuade him to change his mind? Lukes best years are ahead of him, no doubt. He becomes yet another prop who starts his career with Leeds but leaves before we see the true potential. Joining Anderson, Fozzard, Carvell, Ward, Dowes, Scruton et al

Mason too - although not sure he started his career at Leeds?

Would rather have him than Griffin tbh

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:17 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Mason too - although not sure he started his career at Leeds?

Would rather have him than Griffin tbh

Mason, Huby, Carvell, Graham, Ferriol, have were all having contracts expiring end of this season. I would have had any of those before Griffin.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:24 am  

tvoc wrote:

Last time I checked it was 2011. So does it really matter what Burgess was going to do in 2012 and beyond and did he deserve to be sidelined (if that is what happened) because of that future decision?

I imagine there has been something more to it than just his previously stated desire to go to the NRL after his current contract expires, which obviously he is perfectly entitled to do.

Whatever has happened it's yesterday's news and he's now joined the ranks of players that used to play for Leeds.

Luke Burgess: Played 11 + 70, Tries 6, Points 24.

A strike rate of better than 1 in 2? I'd suggest that the chairman of the PFU had a hand in here. Not exactly becoming behaviour of the shirt is it?

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:33 am  

tvoc wrote:

Last time I checked it was 2011. So does it really matter what Burgess was going to do in 2012 and beyond and did he deserve to be sidelined (if that is what happened) because of that future decision?

I imagine there has been something more to it than just his previously stated desire to go to the NRL after his current contract expires, which obviously he is perfectly entitled to do.

Whatever has happened it's yesterday's news and he's now joined the ranks of players that used to play for Leeds.

Luke Burgess: Played 11 + 70, Tries 6, Points 24.

Agree fully with the above.