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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:05 pm  
Rob Burrow will get the job.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:06 pm  
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is the amount of people posting on here the fan base or a tiny fraction of thousands?


Not just talking about on here mate. Check Twitter for an example.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sat Jun 01, 2019 8:41 pm  
Please do not check Twitter.



Or Facebook.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 02, 2019 12:35 pm  
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Let me split this in two, because you have brought up a point a couple of times in it which I think is more fitting.

Firstly, I don't accuse others of an "agenda" I accuse you, and you prove it time after time after time. Furthermore, anyone, anyone, who truely believes that this mess we are in is not the result of McDermott and Hetherington, and could be fixed quickly, shouldn't be posting on here. They should be banging their head against a wall and knocking some sense into it. That isn't opinion, that's as clear as night and day.

Now more to the point, and one I was trying to get out of Fallon, unsuccessfully. You have been quick to continue with your "agenda" of anti Sinfield, rather than concentrate on what is your true point. You said it a couple of times.

Did we need a Director of Rugby? That you have repeated. The answer to that is, who knows? I don't know, you don't know, and most here don't know. That will only become apparent in the future. That is a completely seperate argument to the person doing the job, and I point I don't feel in a position to dispute at all. However, I personally think the title is irrelevant, and is purely the stepping stone to what will be his ultimate position if all goes to plan.

But, the point is the club appointed this role, along with other structural changes, and they have put this in place. Which then comes back to the person in the role. I ask again, who around the game doing that same role, is more desirable for it than Sinfield? I gave two examples of others, Fitzpatrick at Warrington, and Wells at Cas. Why would you think they are more right for it? Neither have Sinfields game understanding, neither have Sinfields winning mentality, neither was a leader of others, neither had that focus and desire to succeed. I doubt they are is equal intelligence, but I don't know that, and I do know Wells inparticular is an intelligent guy. Now do you hear Warrington and Cas fans moaning about that role? No, simply becuase they don't have a mess to deal with that they have inherited, a mess that is not of Sinfields making. So asking again who doing the role of Sinfield currently is a better fit?

Furthermore, there is many many cases throughout the world of business that you spoke of, where people have based a decision on taking someone on purely on personality and drive to succeed, cases that have been a massive success. What's the difference here with that? That doesn't mean in my opinion that I think Sinfield will be a success, only time will tell with that, but I do think he deserves time in the role to do it first.

I will finish by highlighting one of Sinfields biggest mistakes since taking over that role, which will come out at some point, and I notice as this is another smack in the teeth of another little "agenda" of yours you keep completely quite about it. The backing and decision to retain JJB was a big mistake.


You accuse me of having an "agenda" because I am anti Sinfield. This is totally incorrect. I was one of his biggest fans as a player and captain which many of my postings will confirm. So this is not about Sinny the man, it is about his lack of suitability for his current position as he has no coaching or management qualifications and his performance over the last year has not diminished my concerns at the time but rather confirmed them. So if by expressing these concerns this means by your definition I have an "agenda" then so be it. However using this same criteria you would have to plead guilty to having an agenda youself against McDermott, Hetherington, Sutcliffe, Handley, Briscoe, JJB, and all.

So you believe that I should not post on here because I do not agree with your opinion? I have stated on many occasions that as CEO the buck stops with Hetherington therefore I do hold him mainly responsible. I have never said McDermott is blameless, however I do not believe he had control over recruitment, imput maybe. But whilst I do not think it can be quickly fixed I also think talking about 3 to 4 years is wrong. We have had plenty of chances to sign decent players, like Hastings, who would have made a significant difference to our performances had we done so.

I agree there are two issues regarding a DOR at Leeds and both of which I addressed at the time of his appointment. I have not seen a good enough argument for this role other than looking after development rugby and ladies rugby. The head coach/manager should have full control over first team matters without interference from above. I do not know of the scope of the roles at Cas or Warrington and neither do you, so you cannot put this forward as a legitimate argument in favour of a DOR at Headingley.

You use the term "another little agenda" because I have offered positive support for JJB against some of the negative comments from you in particular is surely the opposite of a so called agenda? JJB is well past his best but in the absence of a suitable replacement still offers great attitude and work rate as a fringe squad player. So for you to make out that this is Sinfields biggest mistake is laughable considering that he has just fallen out with his first choice coach and had him sacked. There are so many others to select for poor performance before JJB.
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 02, 2019 2:19 pm  
Flanagan or Griffin for me . Both know the game both know youth development and both are winners . At this moment in time they are the best out there . People are deluded if they
Think Wane and Marshall are genuine candidates. Going with the lowest common denominator has been the reason we are where we are both on and off the field . Time for
Quality change right across the board .
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Sun Jun 02, 2019 6:35 pm  
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Flanagan or Griffin for me . Both know the game both know youth development and both are winners . At this moment in time they are the best out there . People are deluded if they
Think Wane and Marshall are genuine candidates. Going with the lowest common denominator has been the reason we are where we are both on and off the field . Time for
Quality change right across the board .



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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:24 am  
Those guys will want complete authority on the rugby side. After seeing what happened to Furner they'll also (understandably) want locked in payouts in the event things go south. Will the club be willing to bring in a coach on that sort of basis?
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:45 am  
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Those guys will want complete authority on the rugby side. After seeing what happened to Furner they'll also (understandably) want locked in payouts in the event things go south. Will the club be willing to bring in a coach on that sort of basis?


Exactly.

Its Agar's job to lose
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Re: New Head Coach - who's it going to be? : Mon Jun 03, 2019 7:11 am  
Well, give him a decent squad and he's probably capable of at least marching us up the table.
I don't have a huge problem with Agar, pending our performances over the next few rounds.
If KS wants to keep his oar in the water, maybe we need to go down another path where we have several specialist coaches under him. We will really struggle to find a first class head coach who is willing to be held accountable for somebody else's decisions.
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