Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:41 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

some great points seth however if we have an ageing pack, and we do, why weren't they rotated and rested more?

Lack of faith in the alternatives?

I'm guessing it's easy to see the need to rotate but maybe more difficult to implement when it actually comes to it - always tempting to keep the big guns in for just one more week if the wins/performances aren't those expected. Equally might be tempting to keep the big guns on the field during games despite their being alternatives on the bench.

Only conjecture mind.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:42 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

some great points seth however if we have an ageing pack, and we do, why weren't they rotated and rested more?

Did they need resting? Would they have stayed match fit by resting more?

Whatever the coach ideas are its working

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:44 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

some great points seth however if we have an ageing pack, and we do, why weren't they rotated and rested more?

Possibly due the coaches views on consistency with the 17, not being confident with the other senior options and feeling the juniors weren't ready. Like I said there are just so many things, factors that go into each and every decision, things that arent immediately apparent. I find It very difficult to be critical of a coaches calls not seeing them everyday in practice, especially a coach who I've been impressed with in the coaching clinics.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:45 pm  

i would agree. his use of the interchange can be very strange to say the least though.
a real enigma our brian, i'm not sure anyone could ever get inside his head.
as you say though long may he continue to be successful

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:46 pm  

Can't argue with that Seth but again agree 100% with tad.
Well ateod we all want to see our team succeed and be competetive i dont think ANYONE is demanding to win every game or for perfect performances week in week out just to compete in the games we play.
Hopefully next year we will see the coach rotate a bit more and reward some form youngsters (especially in the pack) more because i think he handled getting Hardaker at 1 and reshaping the back line post Senior very well to be fair even though i wanted to see more of keinhorest Ablett was superb in the P/O's at LC.
With Achurch and hopefully Singleton at the very least added to the pack options i think we have no excuses for lack of rotation in the pack.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Oct 09, 2012 8:57 pm  

Trophies Available 2011: LLS, CC, GF
Results: 5th in League, Finalists in CC, Won GF

Trophies Available 2012: WCC, LLS, CC, GF
Results: 5th in League, Finalists in CC, Won GF & WCC

Trophies: 3 from 7 available
Finals: 5 from 5 available

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Oct 09, 2012 9:39 pm  

a quote from Kylie Leuluai in League Express:

'Im just going to see Gary to see if i can sign up for a couple more years now.'

It wouldnt surprise me if he gets his contract extended.So we would then have 2 starting props both aged 36 running round in the 2014 season.

On the evidence of these play offs its hard to argue that they would not still be up to the job beyond next season.I do however, believe that Mac really has to start managing them better through the regular rounds from now on (especially Peacock after his regular flogings) if that is to be the case.

I can see us allowing Moore to move on during the close season and that should lead to Singleton getting a run of games over the next 2 years with little pressure, hopefully gaining plenty of experience from The 2 war horses and ready to pick up the batton when they call it a day in a couple of years.

If Achurch(24 years old?) ends up being the real deal we could find our front row is left in good hands after all.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:31 pm  

WireWonder wrote:

cheekydiddles wrote:

Like you lot got behind Cullen and then Lowes you mean

How many Challenge Cups have you won recently?

This season we're going to retain the CC and win the Grand Final. What are Leeds going to do?


All aboad the Wire glory train. Heading for Wembley and Old Trafford.

Not just Leeds fans with egg on their faces

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:56 am  

I've read the whole thread and hindsight is a wonderful thing. Thought there'd be more embarrassing comments from me as I have been critical if coaches and players over the last 2 years, but I must have reserved them for more obscure threads

I did confess my love for TVOC though, even if he has become a lit more negative recently.

Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:08 pm  

G1 wrote:

And for Juan Cornetto and Seth whilst the knee jerk sack the coach rhetoric is plain dumb the coaches tactics have been validly open to question this year. His use of substitutes being baffling. Feeling the need to explain it and the explanation made matters worse.

This forum is for discussion of all such matters, negative or positive. Contributors don't need to display their coaches badges to post an opinion. I've meet many people who hold copaching badges who are as clueless as the likes of Gotcha and Sal Paradise.

Seth and Juan should have applied for the cheerleaders but they will have missed the auditions now I fear. I've met Seth and he'd look good in hot poants. Don't know about Juan.

I have never argued against the rights of contributors to be critical athough I confess to have less patience with those that display a permanent negative attitude. You do not need a coaches badge to have good rugby acumen. But the comments that I am against are the ones that show little understanding of the coaches role and are made in real ignorance of his true contributions. To call for McDermott to be sacked when the players are clearly out of form shows ignorance and impatience. When this call is repeated after last years finish shows stubborness and a closed mind.

You have been consistent in your defence of the players against some of the "clueless" postings and I have also done that too.