Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:27 pm  

He was injured in the second half, not sure why Roberts didn’t come on.

I don’t actually think Saints had to be that good tonight to dump us out of the cup at home. Embarrassing.

I’d be very tempted to pick Jack Sinfield ahead of Frawley for Cas. Looks like Mom injured again, and if a calf then could be weeks. I’d also be tempted to give Ned McCormack a run on the wing.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:40 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

He was injured in the second half, not sure why Roberts didn’t come on.

I don’t actually think Saints had to be that good tonight to dump us out of the cup at home. Embarrassing.

I’d be very tempted to pick Jack Sinfield ahead of Frawley for Cas. Looks like Mom injured again, and if a calf then could be weeks. I’d also be tempted to give Ned McCormack a run on the wing.

Didn't get a proper look at it tonight, but seemed really poor. Cas on Thursday (and Wire after that) are massive games now. Nothing less than wins acceptable.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:42 pm  

If we're going to start looking at individuals, McDonnell hasn't been on great form yet this season, especially compared with last year.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:44 pm  

leeds owl wrote:

His kicking is absolutely killing Leeds. More worryingly his handling and passing in the first half were absolutely shocking. How some people can think this fella is actually an upgrade on Sezer is beyond me.

Sezer was a proper NRL half, yet got hammered on here. Bad injury record and then lost interest, so can see why some took offence. Frawley is nowhere near Sezer ability wise. His kicking is a joke, but good defender and runing threat at least. But we need a good kicking option…..

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:48 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

If we're going to start looking at individuals, McDonnell hasn't been on great form yet this season, especially compared with last year.

Looks so one dimensional. Had a chance to put Handley away tonight on a rare break, didn’t even look up.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:53 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

If we're going to start looking at individuals, McDonnell hasn't been on great form yet this season, especially compared with last year.

Strange player to pick out; in my opinion he was better tonight. Look out for his tackle stats he was heavily involved. He’s had injury and illness this year and not been on form previously but that was more like it from him.

Why Roberts didn’t come on for a clearly limping Mom and remained as unused sub just seems odd. Why carry him on the bench if you’re not going to put him on to cover an injury?

I’ve been bubbling about Frawley for a couple of weeks now but tonight wasn’t good enough from him.

Ackers and Croft okay again but way too many flat performances otherwise and whatever RS was trying to do tonight, it didn’t work.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:58 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Strange player to pick out; in my opinion he was better tonight. Look out for his tackle stats he was heavily involved. He’s had injury and illness this year and not been on form previously but that was more like it from him.

Peter Smith rates him the same as Frawley (5). Although in fairness he does seem to randomly give everyone between 5-7 if we lose and 6-8/9 if we win.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:01 pm  

Yet another game that we were never really in, the Newman interception made the score look better than the performance.

Smith has changed a lot of
Players but we still walk onto the ball and let teams run for miles against us, it simply does not work and won’t work.

Frawley was really poor but like Sezer last year, he’s always on the back foot.

Terrible attendance and frankly like last year I’m now sick of watching this weak, no intensity football.

Like last week’s selection of Edgell, playing Roberts on the bench against a big, hard team summed up Rohan nonsense ball. Utter garbage

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:10 pm  

Ackers and Croft were probably the pick of our players and Frawley arguably the worst, but the problem is we are collectively poor. If the team is playing well they can carry an individual having an off day. We have had too many players underperforming too often under Smith.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Fri Mar 22, 2024 11:16 pm  

I do like Ackers, he has the odd penalty in him but he tackles hard and his distribution is very good.

I don’t know, maybe Saints are a bit of a bogey side for us at the moment but we went backwards from last week despite having two first graders back.