: Sat May 16, 2009 9:54 am  

rhinoms wrote:

Pretty much agree with you mate.
Also it's worth noting imo that we haven't beaten cas at their place for years so it was a great 2 points!!

You've been listening to the sky team too much. The last 4 games at the jungle are P4 W2 L2.

It's no big deal.

: Sat May 16, 2009 9:56 am  

One True Saxon wrote:

You've been listening to the sky team too much. The last 4 games at the jungle are P4 W2 L2.

It's no big deal.

With cas not being in SL it seems a lot longer!!
Oh and do the think the bhouy's will win the spl danny???

Re: Thoughts on tonight : Sat May 16, 2009 9:57 am  

G1 wrote:

Why on earth focus on what he could have done and not what he did do?

Aside from that you're right to criticise his awful knock on and his poor play for Dixon's try.

Not so sure McGuire was "immense" but won't criticise a half back in those conditions (though he was at fault for cas' first try with an awful ball from dummy half).

Burgess should be dropped for Bailey. Truly awful ball retention.

Discipline is, frankly, becoming beyond a joke and if McLennan is unable to sort it our soon it will be the death of us. Mr Hetherington needs to have a serious word in the coaches ear about this failing especially as the coach himself identified it before the Saints cup game and seems incapable of doing anything about it.

Pleased with the defensive effort but thought we were awful ball in hand. Though the conditions didn't help they didn't hinder Cas as much. Cas had a much better kicking game, by some distance.

Oh, and Shenton didn't look any great shakes up against Ablett but nonetheless he did ingratiate himself to me by handing us the win.

So Gareth McGuire scored two tries, saved two tries in the second half and made the play for the winning penalty - so how was his contribution less immense than either Sinfield or Peacock?

: Sat May 16, 2009 9:57 am  

rhinoms wrote:

Oh and do the think the bhouy's will win the spl danny???

Yes.

Re: Thoughts on tonight : Sat May 16, 2009 9:58 am  

Maverick Rhino wrote:

To be fair there appeared to be evidence at Huddersfield (I think) of a specific effort to eliminate dissent as all the players were making a point of accepting decisions calmly and quietly. That seems to have been a flash in the pan as its creeping back in; and tonight had a dissent penalty and McGuire waving his arms around and shouting at the referee.

It appears the team still need to remove the coaches emotion from their mindset when they cross the white line.

I do agree that dissent has been an increasing Leeds problem but you have to be careful in defining what dissent is? Keith was pulled up for what appeared to be dissent, calling the ref on his decision he has made and he was clear on. On three occasions last night including the Danny appeal, the team did appeal very vigourously, and the ref consulted and agreed with two of those appeals.

I think, other than the Keith incident, what we had was players appealing and not offering dissent. Players should have the right to appeal, if they continue to be vocal after their initial appeal or question a ref after a decison has been finally made, this is dissent. I don't think Danny is guilty of anything but been passionate and of course correct in his appeal... it was a knock on and Smith asked the Touchy and he agreed!

: Sat May 16, 2009 10:01 am  

I have just watched the recording of the the game again I cannot see what everyone is going on about Senior's performance he did nothing in the first half other than give a pass to Hall when all he had to do was keep running to score and one run apart in second half he contributed very little offensively at all.

A game of opinions that's for sure

: Sat May 16, 2009 10:05 am  

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: Sat May 16, 2009 10:05 am  

LEEDSLEADS. wrote:

I just hope having Diskin and Buderus on at the same time was purely because of injuries and not tactical, if it is supposed to be tactical it is more suited to an under 11's side.

Having 2 hookers on, one for each side of the field is completely amateur.

I don't think McClennan had much option tbh - although it worked pretty well for Saints in the CC tie and the SL game so amateur is a bit harsh - could be Saints 2 hookers are a tad better than ours!!! Diskin's non attempt at a tackle on Ferres was embarrasing

: Sat May 16, 2009 10:13 am  

Eccleshill Rhino wrote:

I have just watched the recording of the the game again I cannot see what everyone is going on about Senior's performance he did nothing in the first half other than give a pass to Hall when all he had to do was keep running to score and one run apart in second half he contributed very little offensively at all.

A game of opinions that's for sure

Centres these days are expected to take drives up, as a "3rd 2nd rower", there is only Senior who can do this for us, Watkins, Smith & Gibson are currently not effective when we are taking the ball out of our half.

Our backs are to light weight, I believe this is the only area where we are weak against Saints, they don't have more pace in the back line - just more power.

If Senior wans't in the team I think we would struggle more against better teams, therefore we can't afford to leave him out. The hard yards he makes often go unnoticed.

: Sat May 16, 2009 10:22 am  

I'm glad a game like that came during a month where the team have a relatively light schedule. A nice chance for them to recharge their batteries now, before the Hull game.