Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:16 pm  

Good to hear the club looking after Gannon, both in terms of the head knock and his education.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Tue Jun 21, 2022 6:28 pm  

Simmo71 wrote:

Strong 13, but a weak bench.
I don't expect Leeds to win, but I expect us to be competitive (at least when the first 13 are on the pitch).

The backs should be competitive though are often on the back foot with a weak front row.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:41 pm  

I've a feeling Smith will go myler at fb with Hardaker at centre.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:49 pm  

Best players in best positions for this one. Hardaker is the best fullback at the club, so must start there for me.

Hardaker
Fusitua
Newman
Sutcliffe
Handley
Austin
Sezer
Oledzki
Leeming
Tetevano
Bentley
Martin
Smith

Prior
Dwyer
Walters
Donaldson

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:54 pm  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

We obviously go into the game as the underdogs but Saints are certainly beatable. They sit at the top of the league, but they’re not looking as good as they were earlier in the season.

Yes they are beatable , just not by us

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:56 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

Best players in best positions for this one. Hardaker is the best fullback at the club, so must start there for me.

Hardaker
Fusitua
Newman
Sutcliffe
Handley
Austin
Sezer
Oledzki
Leeming
Tetevano
Bentley
Martin
Smith

Prior
Dwyer
Walters
Donaldson

Not sure Sezer should be in before Myler

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:13 pm  

ploinerrhino wrote:

Not sure Sezer should be in before Myler

RS has said Sezer will start

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:08 am  

Myler isn't a very good halfback. He's got lovely touches every now and then but is a player who floats in and out of the game, which is why in he's been much better from fullback. While he adds a touch of class his all-round game at fullback just isn't as good as Hardaker's either. I don't see him in our best starting 13 if Hardaker stays and Sezer starts playing up to his billing.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:11 am  

It's whether Smith perceives myler to have a better influence on the game than sutcliffe too and whether the first line of defence would benefit from hardakers presence v saints.

Re: RD 16 | St Helens (A) : Wed Jun 22, 2022 6:43 am  

Not sure why you'd make multiple moves to get rid of Sutcliffe? He's hardly a star but he's not generally a major weakness either. If I were Smith I'd be concentrating on best players in their best positions. Assuming (touch wood) Sezer starts to show more than he did earlier, I can't see any reason for not going Hardaker full back, Austin and Sezer at 6 and 7. Anything else just means shifting players out of their best positions to solve other problems, which generally leads to a mess.

Regardless, one reason we've struggled is that we've had no continuity in the spine. We need the first choice to play together and build combinations. My feeling is that Myler will become a utility sub, which may suit him anyway as he can float around when he comes on.