Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:47 am  

I personally don't mind us signing Olpherts. One of our first choice Wingers in Fusitu'a missed half of the season last year and has a history of injury problems and there seems too be uncertainty about his future anyway so can see him leaving after 2023 season if not before.

Imo Tindall or Luis Roberts aren't ready too be first choice Wingers yet and it gives them another Season too develop and maybe try claim a starting winger spot in 2024.

Nobody knows the in's and Outs of the Hardaker situation apart from the club, Hardakers agent and himself. For all we know he could have been wanting XYZ amount of money we didn't think he deserves and could have wanted a lengthy contract again we didn't Justify.

Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 10:12 am  

He's an upgrade on Briscoe.

Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:03 am  

ZH gone by sounds of it.
Between DH,Fusitua,Handley,Tindall I assume one will be moved to centre? Or was that guy from Wigan a centre?

Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:26 am  

Olpherts mentioned he's played fullback and centre before joining Cas. Olpherts might be our utility back to cover 1-5, in which case he'll play a fair few games. Hardaker is a loss,but he's really a class fullback who is a solid centre. If Myler is first choice fullback, where would Hardaker play if everyone is fit?

Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 11:49 am  

Well, Hardaker has proven time and again he is a very competent Centre, he's an excellent Fullback (better than Myler IMO) and a useful stand in winger. Olpherts is probably better on the Wing than Zak, but has no SL track record at all in any other position.

This whole thing is dumb. The truth is we signed Olpherts months ago, and then got stuck with no space for a more useful player in Hardaker who was arguably our form back this season.

Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:10 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

Well, Hardaker has proven time and again he is a very competent Centre, he's an excellent Fullback (better than Myler IMO) and a useful stand in winger. Olpherts is probably better on the Wing than Zak, but has no SL track record at all in any other position.

This whole thing is dumb. The truth is we signed Olpherts months ago, and then got stuck with no space for a more useful player in Hardaker who was arguably our form back this season.

Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:11 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

Well, Hardaker has proven time and again he is a very competent Centre, he's an excellent Fullback (better than Myler IMO) and a useful stand in winger. Olpherts is probably better on the Wing than Zak, but has no SL track record at all in any other position.

This whole thing is dumb. The truth is we signed Olpherts months ago, and then got stuck with no space for a more useful player in Hardaker who was arguably our form back this season.

Is it still a dumb signing if Macdonald signs also?

Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:21 pm  

fanstanningley wrote:

Is it still a dumb signing if Macdonald signs also?

In my view yes, we just don't need Olpherts as far as I can see, so he's a waste of cap space. He was the first choice Winger at Cas, will have been on decent money say £80k, and won't have come here for much less to be a back up. This is a waste of cap space, Winger is the easiest position to bring a younger player in, look how other clubs have done it. Did we need to sign Luis Roberts and Derrell Olpherts as back up wingers?

If the plan is he plays Centre then where is the track record that supports it? There isn't one.

It's a dumb signing.

Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:38 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

In my view yes, we just don't need Olpherts as far as I can see, so he's a waste of cap space. He was the first choice Winger at Cas, will have been on decent money say £80k, and won't have come here for much less to be a back up. This is a waste of cap space, Winger is the easiest position to bring a younger player in, look how other clubs have done it. Did we need to sign Luis Roberts and Derrell Olpherts as back up wingers?

If the plan is he plays Centre then where is the track record that supports it? There isn't one.

It's a dumb signing.

Good to see you give him a chance before writing him off.

We have needed better depth in the squad for a while, talk of ‘back up’ isn’t correct IMO he will get plenty game time all clubs will get injuries.

Also without knowing what he’s getting paid either at Leeds or at Cas you don’t know wether its a waste of cap space or not

Re: 2023 IN | Derrell Olpherts - Expires: 2025 : Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:40 pm  

Deary me. Really feel sorry for Olpherts. Top in the league for tackle busts, 2nd in the league for carries, 3rd in the league for metres. Scores two tries in every three games and plays in 90% of matches. Clearly not good enough!