Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:36 pm  

I’m glad at least not all on this site are anti Mom. Watching the game back on tv that first half was poor and I struggled to really give anyone credit. Things turned around in the 2nd half and there were positive performances from several . Ash seems to have developed a good combination on the left hand side with Mom, hopefully once Mom has settled in and got used to our summer rugby the combo will be really good.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Wed Mar 13, 2024 8:37 pm  

I’m glad at least not all on this site are anti Mom. Watching the game back on tv that first half was poor and I struggled to really give anyone credit. Things turned around in the 2nd half and there were positive performances from several . Ash seems to have developed a good combination on the left hand side with Mom, hopefully once Mom has settled in and got used to our summer rugby the combo will be really good.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Wed Mar 13, 2024 9:52 pm  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

He's been poor, zero attacking threat, a few obvious mistakes and a few where he's gave the pass way too early without committing his man.

Decent defensively, but overall poor so far, emphasis on so far, which is what my original post stated...Unless you think him missing a good chunk of pre season, including all friendlys, his performances so far on the field and being injured 4 games into the season, represents a good start to his Leeds stint?

If so then people really are easily pleased

So if he’s been decent defensively why does that mean he’s overall poor tho?

It’s disappointing he’s picked up an injury, I wouldn’t say he’s been poor, I wouldn’t say he’s been great, like quite a few other players.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Thu Mar 14, 2024 8:14 am  

christopher wrote:

Not sure i can remember a try scored against our left hand side?

Third? try vs Leigh. All shot in, cut out pass to the winger.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Thu Mar 14, 2024 11:32 am  

I find Rohanball a very hard watch and think These next 2 games v Saints are the acid test.

I reckon you would struggle to put a better or equal pack together from the other 11 sides combined.

I’d be happy if we could win 1 of the 2 and preferably the cup match.
hope it’s good weather and we start well.

On momo, I watched him a bit last week and thought we was struggling, it’s early days but he’s looked sluggish so far on and off the ball. It’s a long year so Hopefully he will get better as we go on.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Thu Mar 14, 2024 12:36 pm  

Lees and Batchelor could be back for Saints Friday which adds to their strength in the pack.
The plus side is they may be under cooked.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Thu Mar 14, 2024 5:22 pm  

Sir Gregory ParsloeP wrote:

I find Rohanball a very hard watch and think These next 2 games v Saints are the acid test.

Acid test for what? The team's progress, or Rohan's suitability as coach? What happened to waiting for 10-12 games?

We beat the likes of Saints, Catalans and Wigan last season. From this perspective, winning one against Saints now in isolation doesn't necessarily mean much at all. Consistency in our win-loss record over a longer run of games, and not putting in many below par performances leading to capitulation against the likes of Cas and London would be more meaningful. Also keeping down the points conceded per game, and relying less on 'lady luck' in close games every week would also be positive signs for me. I'd also like to see us look more threatening in the opposition 20 instead of relying on skill shift plays on the last tackle when we're 40m or so out... Lots to work on, but to be expected after 4 games in.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:19 pm  

leedsbarmyarmy wrote:

So if he’s been decent defensively why does that mean he’s overall poor tho?

It’s disappointing he’s picked up an injury, I wouldn’t say he’s been poor, I wouldn’t say he’s been great, like quite a few other players.

From our outside backs who've all played the same games or 1 less in Millers case:

Last in clean breaks with 0
Last in tackle busts with 2
Joint top in errors with 5
0 trys scored
1 assist

Thats why i think he's been poor so far

Not saying he wont improve or that he isnt a good player

But, that output, combined with missing important chunks of preseason, and being injured after 4 games, leads me back to my original post "Not a great start to his Leeds stint"

He would most likely agree with that statement himself

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:11 pm  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

From our outside backs who've all played the same games or 1 less in Millers case:

Last in clean breaks with 0
Last in tackle busts with 2
Joint top in errors with 5
0 trys scored
1 assist

Thats why i think he's been poor so far

Not saying he wont improve or that he isnt a good player

But, that output, combined with missing important chunks of preseason, and being injured after 4 games, leads me back to my original post "Not a great start to his Leeds stint"

He would most likely agree with that statement himself

There’s no getting away from it, he’s had an underwhelming start to say the least. If he can improve on his first four games, all well and good. If he can’t , it will be very disappointing. A lot of people seem to reference his reputation and “credentials”. Unfortunately they count for nothing until he ups his game in a Leeds shirt.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Thu Mar 14, 2024 7:27 pm  

It’s just too early to tell. He has partnered with Handley very well, but hasn’t had a stellar start. Genuinely think he’ll improve with game time and better weather conditions.