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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:47 am  
Should just be west v east so can include non traditional heartlands. I have no idea who could be eligible but surly we can find 34 players
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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:52 am  
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Was good for 15 minutes but then became anonymous, but so did Somoa at that point

Which 15 minutes, when he came on? Didn't think he did much good or bad to be honest didn't carry much but def3nded everything that came his way
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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:56 am  
Only saw the first half.
He looked solid and steady but I don't recall anything beyond that
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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:27 am  
I like the ‘idea’ of Yorkshire V Lancashire but i just don’t think it will work, Lancashire has been diluted as a county that I don’t think it really means much anymore to the players or fans.

Players will pull out left right and centre rendering it pointless
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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 11:37 am  
Yeah, the games would have to have huge importance for the England team like origin does.

It would take big changes and years to bed in
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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:18 pm  
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I like the ‘idea’ of Yorkshire V Lancashire but i just don’t think it will work, Lancashire has been diluted as a county that I don’t think it really means much anymore to the players or fans.

Players will pull out left right and centre rendering it pointless

I guess it depends on what it means to the international coach. Wane obviously wants it, and if he makes it clear that this is a test match trial and sticks to that, then I guess the players and clubs can make up their own minds with regards to their international ambitions. I think the sport owes itself to give it ago with IMG giving it the big push. Headingley would make a great initial choice for a Roses match on a Saturday afternoon. You've got to start somewhere with these things.
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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:24 pm  
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I guess it depends on what it means to the international coach. Wane obviously wants it, and if he makes it clear that this is a test match trial and sticks to that, then I guess the players and clubs can make up their own minds with regards to their international ambitions. I think the sport owes itself to give it ago with IMG giving it the big push. Headingley would make a great initial choice for a Roses match on a Saturday afternoon. You've got to start somewhere with these things.


But it’s not as if it hasn’t been tried before - and failed.

What about the players that don’t come from Lancashire or Yorkshire? I mean technically Wigan isn’t in Lancashire
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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 12:28 pm  
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I guess it depends on what it means to the international coach. Wane obviously wants it, and if he makes it clear that this is a test match trial and sticks to that, then I guess the players and clubs can make up their own minds with regards to their international ambitions.

I agree, but given the amount of NRL players who won't be available for it, how possible would that be?
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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:02 pm  
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But it’s not as if it hasn’t been tried before - and failed.

What about the players that don’t come from Lancashire or Yorkshire? I mean technically Wigan isn’t in Lancashire

Well, the simple answer to that is - it's never been tried properly. Mid week fixtures with no thought to fans travelling arrangements or player welfare - although even then (as Wane knows) it served a purpose in preparing GB for test football. It's worth mentioning that NSW and Queensland played each other for over 70 years in state games that never caught on with fans. It just took some vision and leadership to bring it alive as a concept. Your point about participation from outside the two counties would be a stronger if these players existed in any great number. But the fact is that at the moment they don't, and the talent they do provide never gets held back in terms of international consideration. Look, I know there are always reasons to believe something won't work, but would you rather take on France in front of 3k in a poor quality game that isn't even televised, and provides zero benefit in terms of prep for 3 tests with Australia, or try and do something different instead?
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Re: England Vs Samoa Test Series : Sun Nov 03, 2024 1:36 pm  
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Well, the simple answer to that is - it's never been tried properly. Mid week fixtures with no thought to fans travelling arrangements or player welfare - although even then (as Wane knows) it served a purpose in preparing GB for test football. It's worth mentioning that NSW and Queensland played each other for over 70 years in state games that never caught on with fans. It just took some vision and leadership to bring it alive as a concept. Your point about participation from outside the two counties would be a stronger if these players existed in any great number. But the fact is that at the moment they don't, and the talent they do provide never gets held back in terms of international consideration. Look, I know there are always reasons to believe something won't work, but would you rather take on France in front of 3k in a poor quality game that isn't even televised, and provides zero benefit in terms of prep for 3 tests with Australia, or try and do something different instead?


I’d rather we do England V France properly and not have it has a Curtain Raiser for s championship game.

It’s not as simple as looking at SOO and saying they made it work the rivalry between the two states just doesn’t exist between Yorkshire and ‘Lancashire’. How many times do you hear crowds chant ‘Lancashire’ Yorkshire yes, but never the other way round.

Also on SOO wasn’t Australia RL played as two state Leagues for a lot of the time enhancing the rivalry?
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