Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:01 pm  

[quote="Fallon"]I wouldn't rule out anybody leaving, very few deserve to stay based on last year.

My point is that if people want to talk about it fine, that's what sites like these are for, but some are prone to getting overexcited and believing everything that is written is gospel.

When there is actual news the club will say so. Until then, take these write ups for what they are, guess work. Educated guesses perhaps but just guesses none the less.[/quote]

assuming cuthbertson us telling the truth mind

Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:50 pm  

taxi4stevesmith wrote:

£2.50 Each or 2 for a fiver. Yes he is.

Back in the day it was £2 each, 2 for a fiver

Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:04 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

assuming cuthbertson us telling the truth mind

Like I said, when the club confirms something then there is news you can be sure of. Until then it's all just hot air.

Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 2:21 pm  

It's a devilish job trying to reshape a competitive squad in one off-season. Sinfield/Furner clearly believe "root and branch" is required. I think the club will try to do things the right way - even if there is the odd racing incident where something might leak via an agent or whatever. As fans we don't always know the behind the scenes factors: how good a player's attitude is, how well they train, how they interact with/disrupt others, what chronic injuries they're carrying. I didn't agree with the approach for SOL; but most players we've been linked with are the right ball park. In Kevin I trust.

Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:13 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

John's a legend. Anyone know when he first appeared at HQ? He was selling copies of Rugby Leaguer when I started going in 75.

I remember john from when I was just a little lad in the late 50s he was just a schoolboy himself but I remember him from back t sticks

Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:17 pm  

lionarmour87 wrote:

I remember john from when I was just a little lad in the late 50s he was just a schoolboy himself but I remember him from back t sticks

Wow he has been going some time, i remember him when i was a kid late 80's selling his magazines on the old eastern terrace. Always had good banter with the fans.i'll bet there aren't many haven't had a run in with him down the years.good to hear he is still going strong.

Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:34 pm  

Fallon wrote:

I agree regarding the extensions signed early in the season. In hindsight it's a clear indication of how off the mark McDermott was getting.
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That is a big assumption and not a clear indication!

You could equally argue that for several years now McDermott had successfully been getting blood out of a stone with his aging and un-refreshed squad. Yet he still produced the silverware without having any of the sort of quality signings that greatly benefited all his competitors.

GH must have thought he had a golden goose and kept his purse strings far too tight. He then naively believed that Sinfield also had the Midas touch only to see no improvement since the sacking McDermott. Finally he must have realised that money had to be spent on quality players or the new stands would be empty next season.

I doubt any coach would not want to sign class rugby talent but McDermott kept faith with the squad his boss restricted him to and I am sure did his best. But the squad had become shorn of quality due to retirements and injuries and Sinfield's face after some of the abject performances mirrored the face of his predecessor as did some of his post match comments as the players let him down too.

Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:48 pm  

not the only one assuming things.
depends on your point of view. for both both Hetherington and macdermott were culpable of overseeing what should have been a steady transistion

Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:15 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

not the only one assuming things.
depends on your point of view. for both both Hetherington and macdermott were culpable of overseeing what should have been a steady transistion

I said "you could equally argue". I was replying to a big assumption that was made out to be "a clear indication"

None of us know the restrictions, or otherwise, that were imposed on BM. But we all know that GH keeps his pockets zipped up and that he was largely responsible for recruitment. You could also equally argue that Mac should have stood up to GH and insisted that he needed some new talent. But the relationship was not one of equals and his duty was to tow the company line or leave.

Having said that had we not had such a terrible injury list especially in the pack then I have no doubt we would have been pushing for the top four was Wakefield were.

The idea that the teams poor performances were all the coaches fault were wide of the mark as events showed after his departure. That is not so say he didn't make mistakes but he had earned the right to have enjoyed the benefit of from some decent signings and throughout the season GH had the opportunity to bring in short term solutions but he let BM burn before he put his hand in the company pocket. For that I hold him mainly responsible

Re: 2019 | Squad : Tue Oct 30, 2018 7:32 pm  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

I said "you could equally argue". I was replying to a big assumption that was made out to be "a clear indication"

None of us know the restrictions, or otherwise, that were imposed on BM. But we all know that GH keeps his pockets zipped up and that he was largely responsible for recruitment. You could also equally argue that Mac should have stood up to GH and insisted that he needed some new talent. But the relationship was not one of equals and his duty was to tow the company line or leave.

Having said that had we not had such a terrible injury list especially in the pack then I have no doubt we would have been pushing for the top four was Wakefield were.

The idea that the teams poor performances were all the coaches fault were wide of the mark as events showed after his departure. That is not so say he didn't make mistakes but he had earned the right to have enjoyed the benefit of from some decent signings and throughout the season GH had the opportunity to bring in short term solutions but he let BM burn before he put his hand in the company pocket. For that I hold him mainly responsible

How do you know he was under "restriction" at all??
Numerous events show he had a major say in departures recruitment & retention Cross Mcshane Ferres Jjb Delaney Kirke Bailey Hardaker Etc.
Both he AND GH are responsable.