Fair point - he was a pivotal player in the way Murray set his side up. That move from FB to half mid-way through the game was significant.

Harris was a once in a lifetime player. Probably the bests I’ve seen, along with Tomkins.

However was some real quality around him, and definitely not a one man team. The current squad is 10x worse . Huge job..!

Imagine being a one man team and it not being Adrian Morley lol.

Ha. Exactly ! Could name a few more too….

The thing is the squad Murray took over wasn't considered that great at the time. Yes in retrospect the pack was brutal but... Fleary, Tony Farrell, Andy Hay, Ryan Sheridan - there were a lot of players contemporarily considered journeymen right up until Murray got his hands on them. That's the sort of impact which it'd be a dream for a new coach to have.

The most frustrating thing about this is that this failure hasn't just started this season, it's been on going for years. The club for years has hidden behind mediocrity and steadying the ship, pretending that it's progress towards competing again. The fact we went into another season with a stop gap manager like Agar just shows where our ambition is, and it's fighting relegation.



I really struggle to see why we would trust the men who have got us into this situation, to get us out of it. The signings and managerial appointments have been consistently terrible for years now. The overhaul that is needed is humongous, and that's because of terrible leadership at the top. I don't trust them.

GH is not the talent spotter he was he ought to retire but no way ever will he he is too busy using the rhinos to prosper himself his family and friends.

This is the crux of the matter no way will he bring an influential manager in to point out the problem.

(Like Furner did)

GH has been immense for Leeds and I for one am eternally grateful but let’s now let someone else take total charge and focus on the rugby not the corporate.

Lewis Dodd out for the season. Pundits acting as though it’s end of the world. We’ve pretty much picked up long term injuries every week for the past 3 years!

Achilles and bad. Wish the lad all the best though as special talent…..

People just chuck this BS around like they have a clue what's going on.

were such as cuthbo kylie delaney spotted ? it's the obvious big signings we no longer get stopped with buderus after webb, jp , ellis

Ghost you makes loads of sense.

Can you expand on why it’s Bull ghost.

It’s the True fact.

All this secrecy I wonder if we're going to be underwhelmed?

Nailed on. Fully expecting Ward or Webster.

No you're claiming Hetherington's only interest in the club is in feathering his nest. It's as ridiculous as it sounds.

If it were is that such a bad thing - only way GH gets anything out is to make it successful - nobody could ever question GH's work ethic or commitment to the club.



What some miss on here is the size of the business - it is tiny compared to many normal businesses. Yes it might play a big part in many people's lives but as a commercial enterprise it is small.

ward, Webster, Chester.

that's about the calibre on expecting. anything else is a bonus

I hope you are wrong Tad, if he goes down that route it’s sack the board time, in terms of reaction.

I think it will be someone with a bit more upside. GH went to Aus mid-season and said himself this is a vital appointment. He knows he needs to turn things round and while he can't do much to add to the squad under the cap he needs to show serious intent. Put another way, if its a low-key British coach he's basically telling fans and sponsors to expect more of the same for the next few years.

Which would probably mean relegation and therefore near empty terraces. I know of many season ticket holders that say they would not renew if we are relegated

I'm sure it's true crowds would fall off significantly but just imagine being someone who makes that something they boast about. Seems bizarre to me.

Judging from the fact that JJB thinks he will be out of the job by Friday, I can only assume Shaun Wane has been appointed. He's UK based, so no issues with visas etc., and has the seniority and experience GH has alluded to.



I think it would be a decent appointment, but I would be a bit underwhelmed... Hoping for a top Aussie coach, because I think we need something new, and I don't think Wane would coach us with the same passion and commitment as Wigan.

“return of the Mc? “

Paul Green latest coach to be linked according to YEP. Now that would be a big appointment. Probably total hogwash of course.

John Cartwright