: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:10 pm  

DISA wrote:

And Donald is not.

Leeds salary structure works on more for an international. Hence the reason they have a problem fitting too many in on a top level.

Rightly or wrongly having been resident for 3 years donald now qualifies for England. What's the chances of seeing him selected.

: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:10 pm  

Excellent News.

: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:13 pm  

DISA,donald is not an international so how will he be on more than smith?
surely they will be on the same

: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:17 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

DISA,donald is not an international so how will he be on more than smith?
surely they will be on the same

Once again, DISA is talking out of his bum.

: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:21 pm  

El Diablo wrote:

Do you know that Smith hasn't been offered a contract? It would be a funny sort of negotiation if no opening offers had been made.

Your entire point was "if" this that or the other happened. You do not know that we can't accomodate another international salary, nor do you know that an increased offer hasn't been made. All you know is that the 2 parties have not yet reached mutual agreement and concluded the signing. From that you have seen fit to draw conclusions about the club's priorities. On re-reading this latest post, and your earlier ones, if I am jumping to assumptions it is because you have been pretty explicit in leading me to them.

IF it were a straight choice between Donald and Smith, I think I might go for Smith, but it isn't the case, so it's a pointless comparison to draw.

Just so me and you can draw a line under this misreading.

Donald is out of contract at end of season. He is not going to get offers from the NRL and Union. He aint good enough for that. He can not be approached before a certain time by other super league clubs. (yes I know what happens in reality, but we still had time anyway). There was absolutely no need for the club to be offering him a new deal at this time. And if anything he should have been made to earn it more in relation to this seasons performances to date.

On the other hand. Smith established himself last season into the star that some of us more educated people on here, knew he would be. He took an honour that not many players can say they have earned, in a GF winning MOM. At that point our CEO said there is no chance of Smith leaving and we will set a priority in getting a new deal for him. That was announced to the media.

Up until a few weeks back, that had not happend. No offer had been made to Smith. This despite Wigan already announcing their interest last season, and speculation surrounding union clubs. Not only that but since that GF he also went on to become an International, which under Leeds own salary structure then entitles him to an increase.

Now, if you were a non biased CEO of any company in a similar situation to those scenarios above what would you have done? I would be suprised if you do not be honest and say that Smiths contract should have been discussed upon long before now. Therefore that is the point.

: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:25 pm  

of course it should have been discussed.how do you know it wasn't? because smith said so?

: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:28 pm  

Maybe they are sorting out players for next year on new deals so they know how much money they have in place for a new signing?

: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:28 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

of course it should have been discussed.how do you know it wasn't? because smith said so?

It wasn't.

: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:31 pm  

DISA wrote:

Just so me and you can draw a line under this misreading.

Donald is out of contract at end of season. He is not going to get offers from the NRL and Union. He aint good enough for that. He can not be approached before a certain time by other super league clubs. (yes I know what happens in reality, but we still had time anyway). There was absolutely no need for the club to be offering him a new deal at this time. And if anything he should have been made to earn it more in relation to this seasons performances to date.

On the other hand. Smith established himself last season into the star that some of us more educated people on here, knew he would be. He took an honour that not many players can say they have earned, in a GF winning MOM. At that point our CEO said there is no chance of Smith leaving and we will set a priority in getting a new deal for him. That was announced to the media.

Up until a few weeks back, that had not happend. No offer had been made to Smith. This despite Wigan already announcing their interest last season, and speculation surrounding union clubs. Not only that but since that GF he also went on to become an International, which under Leeds own salary structure then entitles him to an increase.

Now, if you were a non biased CEO of any company in a similar situation to those scenarios above what would you have done? I would be suprised if you do not be honest and say that Smiths contract should have been discussed upon long before now. Therefore that is the point.

Leeds have become a success on the field, and off it for that matter with regards to sticking to salary cap restrictions, by doing the exact opposite of what you keep suggesting

Your argument is full of so many contradictions and holes that it is no surprise people are getting frustrated with you

From what you are saying, in a nutshell, because Scott Donald isn't an International then he won't be on much money. Well, we have a proven winger who has scored a sackful of tries consistently for 3 seasons, so not signing him up for the buttons he will be on would be criminal. Wouldn't it?

On the other hand, Lee Smith, who I do rate and want to stay at the club, is now an International and so should be paid much more than Scott Donald. Despite him not being as consistent over such a period of time.

You'd do a good job of getting Leeds relegated if you were in charge, even in this day and age of no promotion and relegation

: Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:32 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

of course it should have been discussed.how do you know it wasn't? because smith said so?

No.











































He asked Phil Daly.