Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:57 pm  

Most teams take the P out of Tomkins.

(some) Leeds fans merely insert one.

Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:29 pm  

Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:56 am  

I'm surprises this thread made it to 5 pages.

Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:54 am  

All valid points, Some sense on a ridiculous thread.

Following this childish train of thought I assume all non Leeds fans wanted to boycot England games for the actions of Lee SMith who stood on the advertising boardings pleasuring himself after Leeds won last years semi.

No, didn't think so.

Hoofer wrote:

Hanson

I long ago gave up on these forums, but your original post has tempted me out of retirement.

It's probably the most childish, bitter post I've ever seen on RL Fans, and that's going some.

Just what exactly do you hope to achieve by a boycott of England RL matches?

And I'm not defending Tomkins behaviour; it was nearly as immature as your reaction to it.

I was on the tube back to Baker Street after the game with a lot of very knowledgeable Leeds fans, and in discussion there wasn't mention of that incident; there was some (in my opinion) justified comment that Wigan got the "rub of the green" overall, but they showed an appreciation of perspective that you seem to lack.

Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:20 am  

Absolutely pathetic reaction from some hypocritical Leeds fans. The incident seems to have wound them up but the Leeds players are hardly angels are they? I assume you are mostly adults but you need to grow up Leeds fans and stop crying about it. Are you offended by Sam Tomkins actions? Are you offended?

Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:29 am  

nathancroucher wrote:

Absolutely pathetic reaction from some hypocritical Leeds fans. The incident seems to have wound them up but the Leeds players are hardly angels are they? I assume you are mostly adults but you need to grow up Leeds fans and stop crying about it. Are you offended by Sam Tomkins actions? Are you offended?

Im not sure im that offended, but we are talking about the image of the game nationally, this could affect the wider audiance as it was on national TV, I think you are missing the point, st made a gesture, also JT made a gesture although it is uncertain as to what the jt gesture was, this type of thing has no place in the game.

There is a difference to celebrating a try and being abusive to opposition fans ! on national tv, this was a calculated action from a player who just cant help himself ! rant over.

Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:30 am  

Tomkins is a horrible, nasty little toe rag, but on playing merit he deserves to be picked. Would the Aussies drop a player from St George because the fans of Manly didn't like him.

Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:56 pm  

AdmiralHanson wrote: At least the incident is being 'invetigated' : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 695413.stm But frankly folks, we all know what the standards of an RFL investigation are and increasingly, Red Hall has been acting like some Third World Banana Republic (after all, when was any player of any colour last suspended for a cup final / grand final ? Thus, giving abolustely no incentive to behave). Does anyone realistically think that someone on (one would suspect) a salary in excess of a hundred thousand per year be bothered by couple of hundred pounds 'slap on the wrist' by the RFL ? Much has been made by the booing of him at the Exiles game (and whilst I didn't partake of it myself, I can understand the reactions towards him, given his penalty-milking antics across Northern England) but it is worthwhile considering that Leeds fans seem to have been blamed for the booing, most of the regular Leeds fans were in their regular places in the South Stand and thus, you'd expect the noise to come from the regular places (e.g the back etc.) ... It didn't and from what I could see, most of the noise was coming from down the front and sides, where there were groups of (amongst others) Cas and Hull (both sets) fans. To label it a Leeds problem only is laughable. And, given the supposed respect campaign towards match officials, check out the reaction of Sam Tompkins towards Rob Hicks after the scoring of the last Ryan Hall try at Wembley ... A flurry of screaming abuse towards someone doing their job to the best of their abilities. Both these incidents of behaviour are not acceptable and should not be tolerated. Interestingly, in Aussie Rules (a game noted for its biff once-upon-a-time), they used to double the length of bans for trouble during showpiece occasions, but don't expect anything as forward thinking from the RFL. Brining me on to my main point, in a couple of weeks time, Leeds fans will be asked by the RFL to unite behind the odious Sam Tompkins and his slightly less odious brother Joel kick-a-man-on-the-ground Tompkins as if nothing has happend. Well folks, if you support this idea, things could be different this year and perhaps force the RFL's hand in to taking some serious action against these sort of antics. Do not dismiss 'fan power' and power of the pounds in Leeds fans pockets. After all, why do you think the Exiles game was played at Leeds and heavily pluged to Leeds fans in an attempt to get them to turn up ? I would estimate that at some internationals that Leeds fans make up some 20% - 25% of the fans attended. Take those levels of fans away and it going to hit the RFL in somewhere where they will finally start to take notice ... Their back pockets. I would suggest that the Four Nations runs on margins where a 20% drop in projected revenue is going to make a serious difference. So, what can you do ? I know some of you will have got tickets for the England games already and that's fair enough .... But for those of you that haven't and were thinking of going, do you really want to pay your hard earned cash towards someone that shows that level of contempt towards you ? Is Sam Tompkins worthy of representing this nation on the back of those sort of antics and abuse towards match officials ? The ball is very much in the RFL's court and if they fail to deal with this matter, then our response is to not support the 'national' team. You might also want to consider boycotting England shirts and merchandise (they don't look very good anyway) and / or withdrawing your email address and details from RFL mailing lists. Wembley is going to look very big and very empty without the thousands of Leeds fans that otherwise would be there .... And let's see the RFL try and fill it with Wigan 'bandwaggoners' and Hunslet fans etc. They need us down there far more than we need them (you could always watch the national side getting hammered on Sky, if you're that interested) What a stupid, pathetic and ridiculous post. I am amazed that this thread has not been locked and binned from the site.

AdmiralHanson wrote: At least the incident is being 'invetigated' : http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 695413.stm But frankly folks, we all know what the standards of an RFL investigation are and increasingly, Red Hall has been acting like some Third World Banana Republic (after all, when was any player of any colour last suspended for a cup final / grand final ? Thus, giving abolustely no incentive to behave). Does anyone realistically think that someone on (one would suspect) a salary in excess of a hundred thousand per year be bothered by couple of hundred pounds 'slap on the wrist' by the RFL ? Much has been made by the booing of him at the Exiles game (and whilst I didn't partake of it myself, I can understand the reactions towards him, given his penalty-milking antics across Northern England) but it is worthwhile considering that Leeds fans seem to have been blamed for the booing, most of the regular Leeds fans were in their regular places in the South Stand and thus, you'd expect the noise to come from the regular places (e.g the back etc.) ... It didn't and from what I could see, most of the noise was coming from down the front and sides, where there were groups of (amongst others) Cas and Hull (both sets) fans. To label it a Leeds problem only is laughable. And, given the supposed respect campaign towards match officials, check out the reaction of Sam Tompkins towards Rob Hicks after the scoring of the last Ryan Hall try at Wembley ... A flurry of screaming abuse towards someone doing their job to the best of their abilities. Both these incidents of behaviour are not acceptable and should not be tolerated. Interestingly, in Aussie Rules (a game noted for its biff once-upon-a-time), they used to double the length of bans for trouble during showpiece occasions, but don't expect anything as forward thinking from the RFL. Brining me on to my main point, in a couple of weeks time, Leeds fans will be asked by the RFL to unite behind the odious Sam Tompkins and his slightly less odious brother Joel kick-a-man-on-the-ground Tompkins as if nothing has happend. Well folks, if you support this idea, things could be different this year and perhaps force the RFL's hand in to taking some serious action against these sort of antics. Do not dismiss 'fan power' and power of the pounds in Leeds fans pockets. After all, why do you think the Exiles game was played at Leeds and heavily pluged to Leeds fans in an attempt to get them to turn up ? I would estimate that at some internationals that Leeds fans make up some 20% - 25% of the fans attended. Take those levels of fans away and it going to hit the RFL in somewhere where they will finally start to take notice ... Their back pockets. I would suggest that the Four Nations runs on margins where a 20% drop in projected revenue is going to make a serious difference. So, what can you do ? I know some of you will have got tickets for the England games already and that's fair enough .... But for those of you that haven't and were thinking of going, do you really want to pay your hard earned cash towards someone that shows that level of contempt towards you ? Is Sam Tompkins worthy of representing this nation on the back of those sort of antics and abuse towards match officials ? The ball is very much in the RFL's court and if they fail to deal with this matter, then our response is to not support the 'national' team. You might also want to consider boycotting England shirts and merchandise (they don't look very good anyway) and / or withdrawing your email address and details from RFL mailing lists. Wembley is going to look very big and very empty without the thousands of Leeds fans that otherwise would be there .... And let's see the RFL try and fill it with Wigan 'bandwaggoners' and Hunslet fans etc. They need us down there far more than we need them (you could always watch the national side getting hammered on Sky, if you're that interested) What a stupid, pathetic and ridiculous post. I am amazed that this thread has not been locked and binned from the site.

Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:24 pm  

Although never playing for GB, Lee Briers stuck the finger up at Wigan fans... as did Eastmond to his own set of fans.


Away from the BBC coverage, how did any Leeds fans see it anyway? none were there!

Re: Tompkins - Four Nations Boycott : Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:12 pm  

Hysteria about Tomkins aside, if players having a go at the refs is a problem its up to the refs themselves to do something about it - start with sin bins and then send them off.

RL internationals are a joke in part because far too many fans only care about their clubs.