Re: Morgan Knowles : Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:54 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Lomax got smashed a few times, he took the ball in a lot. He's going to get injured, but yes, being clever and knowing when to stay down is a sport-wide problem, not specific to any one player or team. He didn't do that in the Martin incident though, he got hammered there, he's going to need a moment to collect his thoughts after that isn't he.

What Makinson did was a bit of a weird one I agree, but it's not dangerous. I'm sure there was no attempt to detach it.

You said there isn’t any dirty players in the Saints team not ‘dangerous’

Im talking about Lomax in general not just the GF.

You trying to claim Saints are squeaky clean is just red vee tinted rubbish.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Mon Sep 26, 2022 7:51 pm  

I think we will be more consistent / not as embarrassing early next year as this.

I dont mind if we go out at semis / play offs. Just want the team to play more like the last month or so throughout the season.

24' is where we can and should be looking to add big improvements to the pack and looking at a long term FB and HB options going forward.

Hooker and LF actually look OK with kids coming through( assuming they keep kicking on)

Re: Morgan Knowles : Tue Sep 27, 2022 2:24 am  

The only genuinely awful tackle we've had this year's was Tetevano on Hurrell. A few more probably deserved suspensions (notably one of Prior's). Some of the others have been nonsensical, especially on Martin, who is about as clean a player as you'll see, who got suspended once for a completely laughable push on a Salford player at walking pace that would never have hurt the opponent in a million years, and once for incidental high contact which should have been a warning but nothing more.

I completely disagree with Welsby's tackle being somehow a good one. He had zero control over the impact and left his opponent with a bloodied face. It could easily have had no head contact or something much worse, and that's the point, Welsby had no control over what happened with the way he ran in.

Re: Morgan Knowles : Tue Sep 27, 2022 7:21 am  

Shows how ridiculous MRP is. Was a great game with full commitment from both sides but I didnt see anything worthy of a ban from players from either side. Ironie that Knowles cops a ban for nothing after getting away with a dead cert offence.
Don"t think if affected the overall result though. Respect to James Roby the greatest hooker of the superleague era. I am Leeds through and through but one of my favourite ever players!

Re: Morgan Knowles : Tue Sep 27, 2022 10:15 pm  

Once were Loiners wrote:

The only genuinely awful tackle we've had this year's was Tetevano on Hurrell. A few more probably deserved suspensions (notably one of Prior's). Some of the others have been nonsensical, especially on Martin, who is about as clean a player as you'll see, who got suspended once for a completely laughable push on a Salford player at walking pace that would never have hurt the opponent in a million years, and once for incidental high contact which should have been a warning but nothing more.

I completely disagree with Welsby's tackle being somehow a good one. He had zero control over the impact and left his opponent with a bloodied face. It could easily have had no head contact or something much worse, and that's the point, Welsby had no control over what happened with the way he ran in.

One of your academy players made tackle like Welsbys on Sunday did anyone moan ? No everyone nearby said what a great tackle it was

Re: Morgan Knowles : Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:15 pm  

Swoggy Loiner wrote:

Every offence Saints commit is 'a nothing incident'.

Knowles is lucky he didn’t get picked up for two shoulder charges either.

The irony over on the social media sites is bordering on hilarious over the Martin tackle on Lomax. Many are the same names that applauded Welsby’s shot only last week, yet they want a four match ban for Martin’s 'near neck breaker'.
At no point were his legs above the horizontal position, and I’m almost certain Moore wasn’t going to blow up until Welsby and that cockney idiot ran in carrying on.

You sure about that.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:31 pm  

At no point was his neck pushed beyond a normal range of movement or put in a dangerous position.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:51 pm  

Emagdnim13 wrote:

At no point was his neck pushed beyond a normal range of movement or put in a dangerous position.

Not questioning that, if you read the post I was quoting it states At no point were his legs above the horizontal position. I'll leave it for others to decide if that's a dangerous position or not.

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Wed Sep 28, 2022 6:12 pm  

I didnt think.it dangerous but his legs were above horizontal. good reffing. penalty but no card

Re: SL GF | St Helens (Old Trafford) : Wed Sep 28, 2022 7:18 pm  

Yeh the wording probably needs changing on that one to be more about how a player lands. That’s the dangerous part.