: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:12 pm  

RossRhino wrote:

At Bradford he played a lot of wing, full back and centre. I thought one of the reasons him leaving was to play SO?

Thats why I included the scores seperately.

Even if you compared Pryce in his St. Helens Stand-Off role, McGuires rate of scoring is still a lot higher!

: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:12 pm  

django wrote:

Thats fair enough! Unfortunately I don't have my own records hence the use of the yearbooks.

It's good to hear, however, that even in your stats McGuire is out in front.

I suppose the advantage of the yearbook figure is that its easier to compare McGuire to Pryce.

Player------------------Try------Total App-----Try/App
Danny McGuire--------135---------166----------0.813253012

vs

Leon Pryce-------------Try------Total App-----Try/App
At St. Helens-----------40-----------80----------0.5
At Bradford-------------86----------188---------0.4574
Total--------------------126---------268---------0.470149

I hadn't realised that Pryce had played 100 games more than McGuire, I guess that means that Pryce is 3 years more experienced or so, something that should be borne in mind when comparing the two.

: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:20 pm  

G1 wrote:

I hadn't realised that Pryce had played 100 games more than McGuire, I guess that means that Pryce is 3 years more experienced or so, something that should be borne in mind when comparing the two.

Thats a fair point.

...but is that a point in his favour, or a point in McGuires?

: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:24 pm  

Lord_Percy wrote:

Just going back to McGuire's game totals, could it be that the yearbook includes all SL fixtures (including play-offs), but not cup games?

We have a winner. Well done your Lordship.

It works for McGuire at least. (I'll check a few more in a minute.)

No WCC, No Premiership and No Challenge Cup then. Leeds have played 57 such competitive 1st grade fixtures over the SL Era but there's the answer.

EDIT: McGuire, Bai, Calderwood, Donald and Webb all check out as SL Reg Rds + SL Play Offs.

: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:33 pm  

tvoc wrote:

We have a winner. Well done your Lordship.

It works for McGuire at least. (I'll check a few more in a minute.)

No WCC, No Premiership and No Challenge Cup then. Leeds have played 57 such competitive 1st grade fixtures over the SL Era but there's the answer.

EDIT: McGuire, Bai, Calderwood, Donald and Webb all check out as SL Reg Rds + SL Play Offs.

Praise from the master, I'm well chuffed

: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:45 pm  

django wrote:

Thats a fair point.

...but is that a point in his favour, or a point in McGuires?

Well, when anybody says Pryce is better or more complete then so he should be given three years more development. That there is so little to choose between them now could be used as an argument that McGuire is a much better player.

: Thu Feb 12, 2009 2:59 pm  

Based on the Gillette Totals of SL Reg Rds and SL Play Offs

McGuire: Tries - Appearances (inc. Subs)

2001 - 0 ..... 2 ..... 0
2002 - 5 ..... 9 ..... 0.5556
2003 - 15 ..... 29 ..... 0.5172
2004 - 38 ..... 28 ..... 1.3571
2005 - 18 ..... 22 ..... 0.8182
2006 - 25 ..... 22 ..... 1.1364
2007 - 17 ..... 30 ..... 0.5667
2008 - 17 ..... 24 ..... 0.7083

Total ..... 135 ..... 166 ..... 0.8133

2009 - 0 ..... 1 ..... 0 (That'll bring the average down) ..... 0.8084

: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:54 pm  

tvoc wrote:

Based on the Gillette Totals of SL Reg Rds and SL Play Offs

McGuire: Tries - Appearances (inc. Subs)

2001 - 0 ..... 2 ..... 0
2002 - 5 ..... 9 ..... 0.5556
2003 - 15 ..... 29 ..... 0.5172
2004 - 38 ..... 28 ..... 1.3571
2005 - 18 ..... 22 ..... 0.8182
2006 - 25 ..... 22 ..... 1.1364
2007 - 17 ..... 30 ..... 0.5667
2008 - 17 ..... 24 ..... 0.7083

Total ..... 135 ..... 166 ..... 0.8133

2009 - 0 ..... 1 ..... 0 (That'll bring the average down) ..... 0.8084

Can't remember him playing in 2002 nevermind 2001, what position did he play in his first games?

: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:56 pm  

Tony Soprano wrote:

Can't remember him playing in 2002 nevermind 2001, what position did he play in his first games?

i could be miles out, but did he play a couple of games on the wing to start with?

no idea why that thought has come into my head.....perhaps im confusing him with someone else *shrug*

: Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:57 pm  

Off the bench for Ben Walker. Usually anyway. He scored his 1st try away at Widnes (I think in the game Ben Walker missed a kick infront of the posts) and also scored 2 more at home to Cas the day that GB got hammered by the Aussies down under.