Re: My thoughts on today : Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:02 am  

efcrhino wrote:

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6) No centre is avaliable at the moment

Time for Mr Hetherington to open the cheque book and offer Shenton a offer too good to refuse!!

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:05 am  

Shenton would be ideal IMO, although I'd quite like to see him stay at Cas as they continue to improve.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:07 am  

Something is not right at leeds IMO The body language of the players seems very negative and we do't seem to have that spirit. Wether there is something going on behind the scenes I don't know but a lot of our players look tired and down. I have before posted we need to bleed the youngsters through but I have now changed my mind. Maybe a new signing will lift the team spirit.

Also If we were with out some class individual's we would be destroyed by saints. Burrow and Peacock seemed the only ones who turned up which is worrying. On paper i would say man for man we have the strongest team but we don't play like a team we to much rely on individual players.

Re: My thoughts on today : Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:09 am  

ant1 wrote:

Time for Mr Hetherington to open the cheque book and offer Shenton a offer too good to refuse!!

Those days are gone. Shenton should be on more within Castleford's pay structure than he would be on at Leeds. Afterall they have the same cap at their disposal these days .

The pitch needs to be more along the lines of the one made to Gareth Ellis, 'come to Leeds and have a chance of winning things'.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:11 am  

Eccleshill Rhino wrote:

However I do think McClennan made some selection mistakes today - playing either Kylie or Burgess before Bailey was an error both are liabilities in defence. Donald looks a shadow of the player he was on the right wing he needs swopping back and the right centre position needs sorting - for me Gibson doesn't offer enough, Watkins is too young and Smith is a FB. For me he should have stuck with Ablett

Why is everyone bulling up Bailey? He too is liable in defence and does sod all in attack! Ablett is a forward not a centre. Specialist centre required asap please, but it will cost us some of the Eastwood cash.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:20 am  

ant1 wrote:

Why is everyone bulling up Bailey? He too is liable in defence and does sod all in attack! Ablett is a forward not a centre. Specialist centre required asap please, but it will cost us some of the Eastwood cash.

Or even some of the spare cap we had regardless of Eastwood not coming.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:21 am  

ant1 wrote:

Why is everyone bulling up Bailey? He too is liable in defence and does sod all in attack! Ablett is a forward not a centre. Specialist centre required asap please, but it will cost us some of the Eastwood cash.

Because he made one 'hard' tackle on Faasavalu at KR a couple of weeks ago.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:57 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Leeds' attack close to the opposition line is really poor considering we have effectively five or six 'international' playmakers in Sinfield, Burrow, McGuire, Diskin/Buderus and Webb. With that lot structured plays and moving the opposition defence around should be a no-brainer.

Having watched Leeds 'live' against Wigan as well, I really think we're pretty bad at setting up centres full stop.

I wouldn't have played Buderus today either.

Even if you argue that St Helens' forwards were on top, I would still expect a lot more from Leeds supposed creative players. There seemed to be effort from them (esp Webb), but no real idea or talent, especially McGuire (who seemed to spend his day crabbing along the line waiting for a gap to open up).

If they were following some set coaching patterns or plays, it perhaps bodes even worse as they seldom broke the line. Also disappointing from Burrow, especially as St Helens didn't have a recognised scrum half playing. Or is it that there is little difference in the roles and responsibilities of halves these days and they are easily interchangable?

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:01 pm  

wertyuio wrote:

Even if you argue that St Helens' forwards were on top, I would still expect a lot more from Leeds supposed creative players. There seemed to be effort from them (esp Webb), but no real idea or talent, especially McGuire (who seemed to spend his day crabbing along the line waiting for a gap to open up).

If they were following some set coaching patterns or plays, it perhaps bodes even worse as they seldom broke the line. Also disappointing from Burrow, especially as St Helens didn't have a recognised scrum half playing. Or is it that there is little difference in the roles and responsibilities of halves these days and they are easily interchangable?

Leeds have played a flat attack for a few years but its been picked up on so we have to stand further back. There is still the option for flat but a decision has to be made. Leeds are struggling with that. I've never seen so much ball go to ground out of the ruck.

: Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:04 pm  

King Monkey wrote:

Leeds have played a flat attack for a few years but its been picked up on so we have to stand further back. There is still the option for flat but a decision has to be made. Leeds are struggling with that. I've never seen so much ball go to ground out of the ruck.

A while ago, St Helens were masters of the flat attack. For the past few seasons, probably since DA arrived we have a new attacking structure whereby we attack from deep, with countless runners, running good lines. We can still use the flat attack well, when needed, but I feel we have more success by attacking from deep. With the pace Leeds have, if they can master the same structure we use, they will pretty much be unplayable.