Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:13 pm  

Keith Swiftcorn wrote:

It's time to quit when your only desperate retort is the selective referencing of a pre-season warm-up game as indisputable evidence of greatness, notwitstanding the convenient absence of any game-breaking pirouetting stats to back up your assertion. Nothing new there.

OTOH, if you could point me in the direction of Peacock's pirouetting technique causing problems at international level particularly against Australia, I'd be very grateful.

You can't?

Thought not.

Ok I would agree it is time for you to quit!

Funny how you choose to be selective when it suits your negative ramblings. You attempt to dismiss the fact that the pride of the NRL were bested by Leeds because it proves the paucity of your augument. It is you that has suggested JP spends his time reversing into the opposition and that this tactic only works in SL. As I pointed out Manly (a side full of Australian Internationals) had difficulty in coping with JP's technique particularly in the crucial final quarter. I suggest you take a look again at the replay of the WCC where you will be enlightened.

In the interests of accuracy ou may like to change your use of the word 'pirouetting' as this denotes a full rotation on one leg. Now had you used the term 'demi detourné' which is a half turn on both legs you may have been taken more seriously....but then again not

By the way if you could point me in the direction of the Australian team that won the World Club Championship this year I would be grateful?

You can't?

Thought not!

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:18 pm  

Hessle Roader wrote:

You don't understand sarcasm then?

Whoops ....didn't take much notice of your identity. Can now see your intention: next time maybe start your post along the lines of " As a Hull fan....."

Signing Peacock for a further two years is certainly not the best business decision as far as playing staff is concerned: I can only assume the club has longer term coaching aspirations for him.

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 2:59 pm  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

Funny how you choose to be selective when it suits your negative ramblings. You attempt to dismiss the fact that the pride of the NRL were bested by Leeds because it proves the paucity of your augument. It is you that has suggested JP spends his time reversing into the opposition and that this tactic only works in SL. As I pointed out Manly (a side full of Australian Internationals) had difficulty in coping with JP's technique particularly in the crucial final quarter. I suggest you take a look again at the replay of the WCC where you will be enlightened.

Nope, I didn't see any of that. I'm still waiting for those Peacock stats to back up your game-breaking assertions to enlightem me instead. How much longer do I have to wait?

Here's why James Graham was highly sought after by NRL clubs and why Jamie Peacock wasn't.

4N Final V Australia 2011
Graham 35 tackles, 1 ineffective, 1 missed, 19 runs, 134 metres gained, 1 offload
Peacock 27 tackles, 3 ineffective, 2 missed, 8 runs, 64 metres gained, zero offloads
V Australia 2008
Graham 33 tackles, 0 ineffective, 1 missed, 16 runs, 118 metres gained, 2 offloads
Peacock 34 tackles, 0 ineffective, 6 missed, 11 runs, 93 metres gained, zero offloads

Juan Cornetto wrote:

In the interests of accuracy ou may like to change your use of the word 'pirouetting' as this denotes a full rotation on one leg. Now had you used the term 'demi detourné' which is a half turn on both legs you may have been taken more seriously....but then again not

No need because in the interests of accuracy, Peacock does invariably pirouette on one leg with his back turned at the point of impact, and in the absence of a Super League-esque offload under low-intensity SL match conditions (conspicuous by their absence at high-intensity international level against Australia of course) he then proceeds to continue through the full 360 degrees in order to position himself for his trademark and illegal quick PTB where the foot deliberately makes no contact with the ball.

Juan Cornetto wrote:

By the way if you could point me in the direction of the Australian team that won the World Club Championship this year I would be grateful?

I can point you in the direction of NRL teams who have turned up more than a week in advance of the WCC and where some even play a warm up game in the UK in the week prior to the WCC if you like? And guess what? They win. No surprises there, even if it's still a pre-season warm-up game for them.

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:07 pm  

Peacocks technique is actually known as hit and spin, effective to win the contact and speed up the play the ball as well as creating opportunities to offload.

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:30 pm  

Seth wrote:

Peacocks technique is actually known as hit and spin, effective to win the contact and speed up the play the ball as well as creating opportunities to offload.

Yes and he also usually keeps going forward as the tacklers lose their hit momentum as they are turned. Good technique

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:35 pm  

Juan Cornetto wrote:

Yes and he also usually keeps going forward as the tacklers lose their hit momentum as they are turned. Good technique

Quite agree.

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:38 pm  

Keith Swiftcorn wrote:

I'm still waiting for those Peacock stats to back up your game-breaking assertions to enlightem me instead. How much longer do I have to wait?

You want to see stats on how affective JP's attacking technique is?

Really?

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 4:40 pm  

Keith Swiftcorn wrote:

Nope, I didn't see any of that. I'm still waiting for those Peacock stats to back up your game-breaking assertions to enlightem me instead. How much longer do I have to wait?

Don't need for stats on this occassion just look at the WCC tape. As you eat your 'dinner for one' you can enjoy once again Leeds beating the NRL Champions

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:17 pm  

Keith Swiftcorn wrote:

You could always resurrect an old thread on the Wigan forum if you're feeling lonely?

Did it fail to procure the requisite bites?

Lift yer game

Don't worry it wasn't a cry for help, my life is complete

Re: 2 year deal for JP : Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:08 pm  

And have a nice la las tonight.