Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:28 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

I don't see Lilley's long term future at Leeds. I think he'll establish himself as a steady player then in a few years go to a wakefield or a hull KR. Potentially a team at the top end of the championship.

Had high hopes of Lilley.....sounds like the consensus is turning against him Things not looking quite so bright now for 2017.....unless we have signed Brierley of course

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:33 pm  

With our pack going backwards at a rate of knots, did Baldwinson get on tonight?

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:34 pm  

Jesus Christ! People on here see the likes of Luke Gale perform good several years AFTER he's left Leeds and question why we didn't keep him and give him a try and then turn around and write off Lilley after less than a dozen games at the age of 19. (Of which he's shown up well in pretty much each showing and it could've been a draw tonight without his goal kicking btw need I remind you of Hardaker vs Warrington)

FFS.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:35 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

Had high hopes of Lilley.....sounds like the consensus is turning against him Things not looking quite so bright now for 2017.....unless we have signed Brierley of course

He's had some good touches here and there. Helping to set the try up against warrington, also tonights try and yes, he can kick a goal. But in reality I don't think he's got the potential to be good enough, good enough as in a haflback that can help a team to finals a trophies.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:39 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Jesus Christ! People on here see the likes of Luke Gale perform good several years AFTER he's left Leeds and question why we didn't keep him and give him a try and then turn around and write off Lilley after less than a dozen games at the age of 19.

FFS.

Its nothing new! A few keyboard gobshytes. They've always been here. They've said the same about Burrow, JJB, Mathers, Calderwood, Smudger...etc. They must have been some great players themselves!

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:40 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

He's had some good touches here and there. Helping to set the try up against warrington, also tonights try and yes, he can kick a goal. But in reality I don't think he's got the potential to be good enough, good enough as in a haflback that can help a team to finals a trophies.

After only 10 games (mostly at 2nd row) had you decided that Sinfield would lead us to several GF's in his later years?

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:44 pm  

tigertot wrote:

I'm not 'picking' on anyone. We are not in the school playground. Defending a HB for a few conversions is desperate stuff. Burrows & Maguire exhibited brilliance at 19, Lilley nothing but mediocrity.
FWIW Hall was dreadful, the worst game I have seen him have play. But he has shown he is the WBW for many years. Hardaker is still mentally naïve but the best FB in SL. Neither of these going to prevent Leeds retaining their crowns. Having no 7&9 will.

Mcguire and Burrow were special though, both absolutley rapid and an ability to split even international defences with the ease that shawn Johnson can now, had Mcguire not had so many big injuries from 2010 onward I think he would have developed as Englands best half in a long time

What you need to remember though is that most halves are not ready at 19 or even 21, just look at the top halves in the NRL now and when they had there breakout year:
Thurston was 23, Reynolds was 23, Ben hunt was 24...
it can take a while to develop and imo a lack of reserve grade and impatiece is what stops SL from developing any World Class haves

as for Hardaker and Hall, just remember they both started last year poorly as well (probably due to internationals) but came good later

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:12 am  

batleyrhino wrote:

With our pack going backwards at a rate of knots, did Baldwinson get on tonight?

With two players off injured, Delaney strapped and struggling (as usual) and tiring conditions, of course he didn't get on.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:22 am  

Our coach wasn't impressed with our halves, and he said so pretty plainly. Very unusual for BMD to do that.
Lilley was not great . His passing was dreadful, his tackling was weak, he ran poorly without threat and apart from a good short kick for Keinhorst's try we had no kicking game from either half.
Thankfully the ref decided he was going to be the most important player tonight. A truly dreadful display, devoid of sympathy for the conditions and riddled with mistake after mistake. Game became a lottery thanks to Silverwood.

Re: RD 4 | Huddersfield Giants : Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:03 am  

Agree with that DHM. I've been disappointed with Burrow so far this season. After McGuire's injury I've been waiting for him to step up at scrum half and lead but he's not doing. The poor last tackle plays are a symptom of that lack of direction and leadership at half back in my opinion.
Whilst I agree on Lilley's performance overall I thought we looked better with Lilley at 7 and Burrow at 9, both players seemed more at ease in those roles.

Agree on Silverwood too, some bizarre calls and decisions toward & against both sides. Probably helped stoke some of the frustrations that started arising in the 2nd half.