Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 7:34 pm  

My opinion has always been I would rather punish players who are genuinely grubby or just being daft, more than those that are playing hard and just get it slightly wrong.

Don’t get me wrong, Watts is capable of being daft, but I’d hate to see him get the book thrown at him for this one.

And yes I know that it’s the current climate etc but I do think there needs to be a little common sense for what is a contact sport.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:03 pm  

I think the best referee, at the hull derby, coped very well and managed the game excellently.
the worst ones, at leeds and cas didn't.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:35 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

I think the best referee, at the hull derby, coped very well and managed the game excellently.
the worst ones, at leeds and cas didn't.

You’re probably right, but the game needs to be refereeable more… we need to simplify the rules and remove the amount of discretion there is currently,

Another bugbear of mine is the ruck. 3 secs max to release the player on “held” or else penalise. The amount of messing about by Salford was crazy.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 8:42 pm  

there is always different consistencies with different referees.
I refereed football just below football keague and as much as you try to be consistent it doesn't happen.
however there is a huge difference between the qualities of referees in super league and that's a major issue imo. perhaps better training may help I'm not sure.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:25 pm  

Seth wrote: I cant agree that it's a shoulder charge and 100% wouldn't have been a red even last year. I disagree https://twitter.com/mikeyweal/status/17 ... 03033?s=46 Shoulder direct contact to the head, it was acred card and It would have been last year

Seth wrote: I cant agree that it's a shoulder charge and 100% wouldn't have been a red even last year. I disagree https://twitter.com/mikeyweal/status/17 ... 03033?s=46 Shoulder direct contact to the head, it was acred card and It would have been last year

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Mon Feb 19, 2024 5:02 am  

Although it may not have been the case for Watts, who is responsible if the attacker dips at the last second and there is shoulder head contact?

How low do you have to get your body as a defender if the attacker is dipping into the tackle?

It’s not clear cut.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Mon Feb 19, 2024 6:20 am  

It's a good question. Watts didn't dip at all so wouldn't really apply there but under other scenarios where the tackler did then I'm guessing it would be seen as mitigation and the ref would pull out the yellow. There'll doubtless be a grey area though, the sort that usually results in inconsistency.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Mon Feb 19, 2024 7:45 am  

Clearwing wrote:

It's a good question. Watts didn't dip at all so wouldn't really apply there but under other scenarios where the tackler did then I'm guessing it would be seen as mitigation and the ref would pull out the yellow. There'll doubtless be a grey area though, the sort that usually results in inconsistency.

I can see situations where the tackler preemptively dips yet the ball carrier doesn't, resulting in the ball carriers hip/elbow making contact with the tacklers head. Contact with the head and forceful - yellow card?

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:01 am  

This is the scenario that concerns me. I can see players being sent off when they are unable to react to an attacker making a late change in height. This is different to the lazy arms left out when being stepped, and shouldn’t be on the defender in my view.

Re: 2024 Rule Changes : Mon Feb 19, 2024 8:13 am  

batleyrhino wrote:

Although it may not have been the case for Watts, who is responsible if the attacker dips at the last second and there is shoulder head contact?

How low do you have to get your body as a defender if the attacker is dipping into the tackle?

It’s not clear cut.

A player dips their head forward at the line trying to score a try, are we now saying you cannot tackle them if you might touch their head?