: Sat May 16, 2009 5:32 pm  

Ignoring Buderus while attempting to score and Lauitiiti's attacking the Castleford ball carrier and the times players allowed kicks to bounce rather than attempt to take them on the full:

I'd quantify the knock ons:

Keith Senior - 2
Ryan Hall - 2
Jamie Peacock - 2
Luke Burgess - 2
Carl Ablett - 1

The absurd thing is Leeds made fewer errors (knock ons, forward passes, offloads to opposition, missed penalty kicks to touch, conceding penalties) than they did in the perfect playing conditions of Edinburgh in their previous outing.

: Sat May 16, 2009 6:56 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

the F.A. have been trying to ban them for years.i have seen photos of injuries caused by them. as adidas plough millions into football they haven't a chance of banning them though

I had my calf torn open by our footy boot wearing 10. He trod on the back of my leg as I ran past him and ripped it wide open. The doc at A&E was checking if the muscle sheeth had been ripped and got his whole hand in the gash. They weren't blades but plastic studs (not the PVC kite marked rugby ones).

: Sat May 16, 2009 7:55 pm  

DISA wrote:

Your kidding right? seriously, you can not possibly have seen the game to come out with that.

Webb missed miles more than the dropped bomb. I dont think he took any bomb on the full. He let most things bounce, causing huge problems. He could not beat a man. He was slow returning the kicks. All in all his performance was woefull.

Senior makes one mistake by flapping at a kick, and you think his performance was worse than Webbs?

Disa agree re Webb he never looked likely to catch a high ball and his kick return was laboured to say the least but to Say Senior only made one mistake is wrong.

He ripped the ball out for a penalty back chatted to give Cas another 10 and then let Dixon walk in unopposed for the try that three mistakes in one set of six

Re: Thoughts on tonight : Sun May 17, 2009 12:36 pm  

Eccleshill Rhino wrote:

So Gareth McGuire scored two tries, saved two tries in the second half and made the play for the winning penalty - so how was his contribution less immense than either Sinfield or Peacock?

Firstly, I never said Peacock or Sinfield were immense. Nor did I criticise Mcguire.

But no, I don't think he was "immense".

And as for making the play for the winning penalty................ He had a brain fart, made the dumbest play at Wheldon Road since carl Gibson tapped a Penalty in the premiership playoffs and was very, very lucky that Shenton gave away the penalty.

Re: Thoughts on tonight : Sun May 17, 2009 12:45 pm  

Eccleshill Rhino wrote:

McGuire scored two tries, saved two tries in the second half and made the play for the winning penalty - so how was his contribution less immense than either Sinfield or Peacock?

Confirmation if any were needed that you are a fekwit.

: Mon May 18, 2009 9:53 am  

tvoc wrote:

Unfortunately for that viewpoint, in a big game he's the only Leeds three-quarter who's likely to pose any threat as well.

What caused Donald's injury last night? A sharp gust of wind? It looked bizarre from the amount of contact.

From the replay it looked to me like he banged his temple on the defenders knee. Although the commentry team said they couldn't see it

Re: Thoughts on tonight : Mon May 18, 2009 11:40 am  

G1 wrote:

Firstly, I never said Peacock or Sinfield were immense. Nor did I criticise Mcguire.

But no, I don't think he was "immense".

And as for making the play for the winning penalty................ He had a brain fart, made the dumbest play at Wheldon Road since carl Gibson tapped a Penalty in the premiership playoffs and was very, very lucky that Shenton gave away the penalty.

In reference to McGuire, he was lucky to get away with such a greedy kick. Having said that least he chased the hell out of it, to apply the pressure, which lead to the penalty.

I did think his two trys were technically brilliant. They looked simple, but in those conditions (when Peacock, Hall + Biff knocked on twice) the quality of those pick-ups were outstanding, and proved the difference in the end.

I can think of a similar dumb play down t'lanes circa 98'99 ish. With Harris. We were locked at 30 a piece, nothing on the clock, we had the ball, 40m out, setting up for a drop goal surely? Last tackle came and Harris decided to take on the defensive by himself. Bet about 5 players to be fair, but was obviously grounded and the game was over. Nice.

Re: Thoughts on tonight : Mon May 18, 2009 11:48 am  

G1 wrote:

Firstly, I never said Peacock or Sinfield were immense. Nor did I criticise Mcguire.

But no, I don't think he was "immense".

And as for making the play for the winning penalty................ He had a brain fart, made the dumbest play at Wheldon Road since carl Gibson tapped a Penalty in the premiership playoffs and was very, very lucky that Shenton gave away the penalty.

Funny out of the 4 people mentioned you picked McGuire out - no surprise there

If Shenton had not given away the penalty McGuire would have scored a try - Shenton had no alternative but to give away the penalty. Good play on McGuire's part.

Re: Thoughts on tonight : Mon May 18, 2009 11:51 am  

thebloodbath wrote:

I did think his two trys were technically brilliant. They looked simple, but in those conditions (when Peacock, Hall + Biff knocked on twice) the quality of those pick-ups were outstanding, and proved the difference in the end.

I'm surprised there's been no mention on here about the pick up for the first of his tries (perhaps it has on forums I don't visit). In ultra slow motion it looked a knock on to me but at a reasonable speed it looked fine. One of those.

The Dixon put down balanced the effect for me. Both had doubts but not enough to rule them out.

Re: Thoughts on tonight : Mon May 18, 2009 11:56 am  

tvoc wrote:

I'm surprised there's been no mention on here about the pick up for the first of his tries (perhaps it has on forums I don't visit). In ultra slow motion it looked a knock on to me but at a reasonable speed it looked fine. One of those.

The Dixon put down balanced the effect for me. Both had doubts but not enough to rule them out.

Yeah, for me he seemed to catch the ball when the ball hit the mud. Fine for me, it's one of those where once you slow it right down, questions can be asked. Those q's didn't appear at full speed. Great pick-up IMO and the Dixon 'score' is a good use of tit for tat, it all balances out generally.