Trade Martin and Frawley for Lam

But will Martin count on the quota? Lots of speculation on players who have been here 5 years coming off next year. If that's the case he becomes more valuable to us. I'd like to think the club has sought clarification on this.

Yep…that’s my understanding…appears the clubs will/have voted this new dispensation in so if the case Martin will come off the quota and if we lose Fusi and Frawley then we have 3 quota spots which surely we can do some serious damage with

I think we’re going to have to terminate one of the quota players early which will cost a fortune but…



I would probably keep Martin if he was off quota,

We all know that the pack needs major surgery.

But unfortunately, the surgery to the backs last off season has pretty much been a disaster.

Frawley, Mom and Miller are not good enough.

Controversial regarding Miller, but I just don't rate him.

The odd flashy run and can beat a man with his footwork, but mostly runs sideways and doesn't have the pace of Field, French or Dufty to make a decent break.

And most importantly, he makes terrible decisions and very costly mistakes.

As well as Fus, I would get rid of all 4 and start again I'm afraid.

Miller is one of the only players we have who can make MoM impact when he plays well, but he is inconsistent as hell. The coaching staff need to take a grip on him and see if he can tighten up his game, otherwise Edgell or another lad should be coming past him into first grade.



Fus will be gone next year I'm sure. Hall is an upgrade there, plus we have a couple of other lads coming through in the outside backs.



The pack is fixable but we need at least 2 high quality additions.

There’s much more to coaching than press conferences. But having watched Arthur’s from last night I am fully a convert.



Complete levelheadedness, knows his style and process and believes in it. High level of accountability without throwing players under the bus and an understanding that ‘just good enough’ isn’t good enough.



He is exactly what this group of players needs right now IMO.

Hopefully Arthur gives us another year as with time with the squad think he will be brilliant with our younger players especially if he brings his own coaching staff on board. There's a refreshing directness about him and a quiet confidence. If he goes and Rowley sticks with Salford who knows who we get. Wellens probably available and the saints fans would pay his travel costs !

Please Don’t Go - KC and the Sunshine Band re-mixed for Brad Arthur please South Stand.



Early days yet and we still may miss the 6, I just like what BA is about and think his experience will really benefit this young side.

KWS from the 90s surely

Bet you had a little rave to that back in the day Chris...

Down the Batley Frontier - happy days

Oh god, the big F

Nightclub of the year!





1982

Read an interesting article where George Williams said Burgess is like one of the lads who the players respect a lot who is there to put an arm around the players and if the players say they are lagged after a hard/physical game he is quite happy to cancel training and let them recover.

The brains behind the moves and structure is down to the other coaches at the club.

Imagine if news got out that Rohan Smith had that philosophy there would be an uproar.

Not that I was a fan of Smith just trying to justify Burgess`s coaching methods seem a bit soft.

Like everything balance is important and how you 'execute' that is key. Work your nuts off in practice and front load their energy (as they say now) in games and you can allow that extra space to recharge. I bet burgess has a good balance with the graft he expects too and holds the players to account.

And how is holding to account and front loading energy working out for us in the run in this season folks?

I’d say more honestly than the vibes rugby BS we were playing before.



Trust his the squad is pretty awful, recruitment and retention has been shocking for years, and our choices in coaches have been really poor going back to anyone since BMD.



BA, with the right squad would win SL easily, problem is he has a very poor squad right now.

Was actually working pretty well for 20 mins until Lisone came up with first of several match turning errors right in front of their posts. Don't know if you are trying to suggest we'd have done better under Smith. My view us that we would have lost that game by 30 under Rohan.

at least. smith has ruined us. set us back massively with his stupid style of play

Jim let it go, you're suggesting that Arthur can come in and within a few weeks reverse the monumental mess Smith has left, you've not demonstrated much critical thinking there



It's heading very slowly in the right direction ie in the complete opposite direction to RS.

He’s cost us 2 years of more knot untying. GH has made some poor decision over the last 10 years, employing Smith is right up there with the worst of them.

yep

How do you account for Bentley, Lisone and others making stupid mistakes - which is what actually cost us the game today, like it has many times this season?



Is this your hated style of play still? That makes Bentley rush the line, take someone obviously high, give a penalty away we couldn't afford and cost us a body for a critical 10 minutes?



Sorry but it's just too easy an explanation. I've said all season that individual players aren't good enough and it's my hill to die on.

I'm suggesting that there's more to success than just changing a coach or holding people to account, contrary to the many coaching geniuses on here.



We can agree it's heading more in the right direction.



Let it go? Wee donkey - you boys have been banging on about RS for months, to the point where I'm seriously considering not posting on here. You're like a load of grumpy old parrots repeating each other and pooing over anyone who doesn't agree.