Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 8:14 am  

Allegedly him and a pal drank 7 pints each, and a litre of vodka and whiskey. That was before taking the drugs. Taking the drugs out the equation ,that amount of alcohol in the lead up to the biggest game in the history of cas Tigers is staggering.
If as appears cas terminated his contract and received no fee from Wigan that is strange. Why not keep him and sell him, when his ban is finished. I like Powell as a coach and he seems a decent man, he certainly deserved better from hardaker. At face value Wigan have snapped up a bargain buy. Time will tell, surely he won’t screw up again?!!!

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 9:32 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Allegedly him and a pal drank 7 pints each, and a litre of vodka and whiskey. That was before taking the drugs. Taking the drugs out the equation ,that amount of alcohol in the lead up to the biggest game in the history of cas Tigers is staggering.
If as appears cas terminated his contract and received no fee from Wigan that is strange. Why not keep him and sell him, when his ban is finished. I like Powell as a coach and he seems a decent man, he certainly deserved better from hardaker. At face value Wigan have snapped up a bargain buy. Time will tell, surely he won’t screw up again?!!!

If Cas had kept with him they would have been ridiculed in some quarters for not setting an example. Morally I think they have done the right thing, though I am not normally the type to dump stupid people on the scrap heap. I am not happy that Wigan appear to think it is acceptable to start talking to disgraced players about a fat new contract even before the ban is announced.

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 9:46 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

Allegedly him and a pal drank 7 pints each, and a litre of vodka and whiskey. That was before taking the drugs. Taking the drugs out the equation ,that amount of alcohol in the lead up to the biggest game in the history of cas Tigers is staggering.
If as appears cas terminated his contract and received no fee from Wigan that is strange. Why not keep him and sell him, when his ban is finished. I like Powell as a coach and he seems a decent man, he certainly deserved better from hardaker. At face value Wigan have snapped up a bargain buy. Time will tell, surely he won’t screw up again?!!!

All that ?disgraceful a young athlete abusing his fitness

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 10:27 am  

tigertot wrote:

If Cas had kept with him they would have been ridiculed in some quarters for not setting an example. Morally I think they have done the right thing, though I am not normally the type to dump stupid people on the scrap heap. I am not happy that Wigan appear to think it is acceptable to start talking to disgraced players about a fat new contract even before the ban is announced.

You are correct, cas made the right call. I still think they should receive some payment for the lad. Why should cas lose out because hardaker steps out of line. I note the anti doping committee have stated that hardaker was fortunate to take the drugs, as to carry on drinking that amount of alcohol would have killed him. Sadly all this is a major article in today’s times, it’s also well covered in other major newspapers.

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 1:03 pm  

tigertot wrote:

If Cas had kept with him they would have been ridiculed in some quarters for not setting an example. Morally I think they have done the right thing, though I am not normally the type to dump stupid people on the scrap heap. I am not happy that Wigan appear to think it is acceptable to start talking to disgraced players about a fat new contract even before the ban is announced.

I applaud Cas from making a strong statement by Sacking Hardaker. It's just a shame they could find a way to extract some money from the Pies by holding onto his registration.

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 2:11 pm  

TOMCAT wrote:

I applaud Cas from making a strong statement by Sacking Hardaker. It's just a shame they could find a way to extract some money from the Pies by holding onto his registration.

I do too, Cas did the right thing and i feel a bit for the way they have come out of all this.Not only did he scupper their SL title chances but he cost them thousands of pounds in the process. In the meantime Zak has a year of down time knowing he already has a top club lined up for 2019 and beyond, probably spending the time jollying it up with his pals.yeah, some punishment that.

The RFL should force ZH to pay a percentage of the Cas transfer fee they paid leeds out of his wages for the duration of his Wigan deal as way of compensation but no doubt nothing will happen and he carries on until the next time he decides to over step the mark.

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 4:30 pm  

I see some of the Wigan fans uptight that we are taking the moral high ground on Zak.
There`s also mention of McGuire pretending to be injured that cost them in the semi final what 5 years ago now was it, moving the goal posts when Wigan were taking a kick at goal and booing Tomkins when he played for England.
And we signed Hanley who was a bad un.
Pretty much got most of that wrong then.
Of course Wigan always abide by the rules and wouldn`t do anything to cheat a game or the system and would never dream of signing bad boys.

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 6:50 pm  

Biff Tannen wrote:

I do too, Cas did the right thing and i feel a bit for the way they have come out of all this.Not only did he scupper their SL title chances but he cost them thousands of pounds in the process. In the meantime Zak has a year of down time knowing he already has a top club lined up for 2019 and beyond, probably spending the time jollying it up with his pals.yeah, some punishment that.

The RFL should force ZH to pay a percentage of the Cas transfer fee they paid leeds out of his wages for the duration of his Wigan deal as way of compensation but no doubt nothing will happen and he carries on until the next time he decides to over step the mark.

Cas knew exactly what they were signing and exactly what would happen if they sacked him. Their choice both times.

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 7:16 pm  

TOMCAT wrote:

I applaud Cas from making a strong statement by Sacking Hardaker. It's just a shame they could find a way to extract some money from the Pies by holding onto his registration.

The money will be extracted from Hardaker.
As he committed the first repudiatory breach of contract (be getting shitfaced on alcohol and class A), the club were well within their rights to dismiss him. However, Because he committed the repudiatory breach, he is liable for any financial loss caused by this. In this case, the £150k that it cost to buy him and indeed the cost of his replacement.
The precedent here is the Adrian Mutu case. He failed a drugs tests (cocaine) and was sacked by Chelsea, who then recovered the cost of his transfer fee (£13m) and also the cost of replacing him (£22m). Mutu appealed to every court possible but failed every time. His breach of contract left him personally liable for all Chelsea’s financial loss, including “the wasted costs of acquiring the Player and the cost of replacing the Player” (quoted directly from the court judgement).

Re: OUT 2017 | Zak Hardaker - Castleford Tigers : Tue May 01, 2018 7:29 pm  

In which case, Hardaker signing for Wigan on a fat contract is a good thing for Cas, as it's probably the only way they will get any serious money out of him.