A rules question : Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:15 am  

Saints fan in peace just looking for clarification.

Last night Huddersfield got a penalty and tried to kick the goal. It didn't go over and the ball landed in the field of play and didn't go dead. Both teams and all the officials just jogged away into position for the restart, nobody made any effort to pick the ball up and play on.

Unless there's been a rule change my understanding is that the ball is still live and play should continue. Am I wrong?

Re: A rules question : Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:32 am  

I’d say you’re right. There are three possible outcomes: 1) ball is kicked between the posts, two points. 2) ball doesn’t go between the posts but goes dead, drop out. 3) ball doesn’t go between the posts but stays in play, play on.

The only caveat for play on in the last scenario is that the ref thinks it was a genuine attempt at goal.

Re: A rules question : Thu Aug 25, 2022 10:41 am  

Talking of rules, we were 12 14 down last night then got a 6 again in more than kickable range, should we not have the opportunity to level the scores with less than 10 to go?

Re: A rules question : Thu Aug 25, 2022 4:53 pm  

Seth wrote:

Talking of rules, we were 12 14 down last night then got a 6 again in more than kickable range, should we not have the opportunity to level the scores with less than 10 to go?

I thought that, just hate the 6 again rule. Just bring back the quick tap let the players decide.

Re: A rules question : Thu Aug 25, 2022 5:23 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

I thought that, just hate the 6 again rule. Just bring back the quick tap let the players decide.

I'm not a massive fan of 6 again. BUT revert to a tap and the TV games get further ruined by even more frequent episodes of idiotic analysis of reffing by Baz, Tez, Wilkin etc...

Re: A rules question : Thu Aug 25, 2022 9:17 pm  

Harry Pinner wrote:

Saints fan in peace just looking for clarification.

Last night Huddersfield got a penalty and tried to kick the goal. It didn't go over and the ball landed in the field of play and didn't go dead. Both teams and all the officials just jogged away into position for the restart, nobody made any effort to pick the ball up and play on.

Unless there's been a rule change my understanding is that the ball is still live and play should continue. Am I wrong?

He only missed 1 penalty, and that went dead
The kick that just missed and the ball stayed in goal was a conversion

Re: A rules question : Fri Aug 26, 2022 1:22 pm  

Jukesays wrote:

He only missed 1 penalty, and that went dead
The kick that just missed and the ball stayed in goal was a conversion

I was only ½ watching to be fair

Re: A rules question : Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:14 pm  

6 again is good in principle but is often exploited.

Example, earlier in the season Saints used to often deliberately hold down on the first tackle for a team bringing the ball out of their 22. Bought Saints time to get their defensive line in order - worth it for the sake of one extra tackle. Not worth it if it a penalty is given instead.

Re: A rules question : Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:17 pm  

Mr Scruff wrote:

6 again is good in principle but is often exploited.

Example, earlier in the season Saints used to often deliberately hold down on the first tackle for a team bringing the ball out of their 22. Bought Saints time to get their defensive line in order - worth it for the sake of one extra tackle. Not worth it if it a penalty is given instead.

Possible solution. Offence committed by defending side in opposition's 20 (40?), then it's a penalty rather than 6 again.

Re: A rules question : Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:26 pm  

YosemiteSam wrote:

Possible solution. Offence committed by defending side in opposition's 20 (40?), then it's a penalty rather than 6 again.

Totally agree.

Sadly I'm not convinced there's anyone at the RFL with the vision to implement it.