Re: A question about ade gardener : Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:55 pm  

Toddy Senior wrote:

I'm surprised you can actually spell "sycophantic" but I can spell "patronising", "son"! Did I actually say that Saints should offer Ade a new contract? I simply commented that trolls such as yourself (and others) should respect those players who have given great service to the club. I sincerely hope Ade gets a new contract (whichever club he plays for next season) because he's a good deal better than many of the wingers I've seen this season. I might also say that I'd be delighted if Wello gets a one-year contract extension as he's played well from the bench but I'd qualify this by saying that Wilko should be our captain for next season.

Toddy take a chill pill nobody is calling Ade it's just time for him to go, as with Wello

Re: A question about ade gardener : Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:21 pm  

Toddy Senior wrote:

...."you're welcome to him.....????" Yet another cynical posting on this website! Ade has consistently been one of our top try scorers (8th top in Super League I believe) and has always given of his best each time he's appeared. During the past couple of seasons he's struggled a bit with injury but he's always been a great credit to our team and his work ethic can't be faulted. My god, what does a player have to do for Saints to earn a bit of respect when nearing the end of his career? (and yes, I mean you Saddo......!!!!)

Gardner is gash and should have been despatched to another club years ago.

No pace , no threat , his only merit being he is not as fragile as he used to be ?

The difference now makinson and swift play as a pair is huge. A sense of excitement every time either of them get the ball. Neither of them is Quirk , Sullivan or Albert yet but they are exciting to watch.

To recap Gardner is gash.

Re: A question about ade gardener : Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:13 pm  

Gerry Mander wrote:

Gardner is gash and should have been despatched to another club years ago.

No pace , no threat , his only merit being he is not as fragile as he used to be ?

The difference now makinson and swift play as a pair is huge. A sense of excitement every time either of them get the ball. Neither of them is Quirk , Sullivan or Albert yet but they are exciting to watch.

To recap Gardner is gash.

I'm not sure what message you are trying to convey there. Just went straight over my head.

Re: A question about ade gardener : Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:01 pm  

another fine mess wrote:

Hi apparently rovers are talking to him?

Two questions if ok 1. Is ade being released or has he been offered a new deal?.
2. Whats opinion on him?

Thank you for taking time to read this and replying. Good luck to saints and rich Beaumont next season.

IMO he's useless. He will run the ball back all day and his one on one tackling is decent but that's about it. Positioning is awful, speed is no use as he will never put himself a position to use it and is still dodgey under a high ball. A couple of years outside Jamie Lyon and Matt Gidley boosted his career to a place his skill level didn't deserve to be at.

Re: A question about ade gardener : Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:02 pm  

Gerry Mander wrote:

Gardner is gash and should have been despatched to another club years ago.

No pace , no threat , his only merit being he is not as fragile as he used to be ?

The difference now makinson and swift play as a pair is huge. A sense of excitement every time either of them get the ball. Neither of them is Quirk , Sullivan or Albert yet but they are exciting to watch.

To recap Gardner is gash.

Quit sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think.

Re: A question about ade gardener : Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:02 pm  

Toddy Senior wrote:

...."you're welcome to him.....????" Yet another cynical posting on this website! Ade has consistently been one of our top try scorers (8th top in Super League I believe) and has always given of his best each time he's appeared. During the past couple of seasons he's struggled a bit with injury but he's always been a great credit to our team and his work ethic can't be faulted. My god, what does a player have to do for Saints to earn a bit of respect when nearing the end of his career? (and yes, I mean you Saddo......!!!!)

Plenty respect for Ade from me , I appreciate the effort he's put in for the club over the years but it's time to go. He has benefited from playing outside some fine centre's but for me has never been anything but average. I think he will be surpassed in the records by Swift who looks like a real prospect and possibly even Makinson who has the thing Ade sadly lacks.. pace

Re: A question about ade gardener : Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:21 pm  

Ade has done well over the years, always like the way he ran the ball back (done that more than some of the forwards). I can't see him getting back in the team though.

Re: A question about ade gardener : Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:33 pm  

I think there's some unwarranted criticism & revisionism going on about Gardner. He's a player who, though never a world beater and had a frustrating reluctance to take on a player on the outside, never given less than 100% for the club. I'm never comfortable when players like that get the sort of sneering criticism some have expressed in this thread.

Re: A question about ade gardener : Fri Sep 27, 2013 8:58 am  

Th'ump wrote:

I think there's some unwarranted criticism & revisionism going on about Gardner. He's a player who, though never a world beater and had a frustrating reluctance to take on a player on the outside, never given less than 100% for the club. I'm never comfortable when players like that get the sort of sneering criticism some have expressed in this thread.

As already mentioned, everyone respects what players like Ade have done. But there is no room for such sentimentality in sport. Gardner would only ever be backup to the kids in the team, and would probably fall behind kids coming through from the academy like Percival (I know I'd pick him over Ade on the wing).

Re: A question about ade gardener : Fri Sep 27, 2013 9:25 pm  

Think the time has come for him to leave but its interesting that one poster says his one on one tackling is good, another says his finishing close to the line is good, another says he will run through a brick wall.....all good traits for today's wingers. His speed isn't what it was or should be though.

In his defence, its remarkable he's received so much stick for relying on his centres or not being that good......I think he was great in February 2007....just ask the Brisbane wingers.