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Re: Catalans Stats : Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:02 pm  
Of interest to me is the speed or lack of in the games, These are the combined stats for both sides

The Catalan game had 344 carries 584 tackles
Hull KR game 318 carries 554 tackles
Salford game 422 carries 653 tackles
Hull game 402 carries 590 tackles
no stats available for Warrington match


I compared them to a couple of NRL games

Warriors v st.george 355 carries 628 tackles
manly v souths 347 carries 561 tackles
Brisbane v north queensland 352 carries 689 tackles
penrith v Newcastle 354 carries 675 tackles


The thing that jumps out at you with the NRL is how similar from match to match the number of carries is in a game.
You can also see that for the number of carries made the aussies are putting in a lot more defensive effort as seen in their high tackling stat figures.

SL has some games that are fast and open and other games that are a lot slower. The NRL doesn't appear to have this variation. Instead every match is pretty much a slowed down attritional grind.
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Re: Catalans Stats : Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:24 pm  
The Chair Maker wrote:
Of interest to me is the speed or lack of in the games, These are the combined stats for both sides

The Catalan game had 344 carries 584 tackles
Hull KR game 318 carries 554 tackles
Salford game 422 carries 653 tackles
Hull game 402 carries 590 tackles
no stats available for Warrington match


I compared them to a couple of NRL games

Warriors v st.george 355 carries 628 tackles
manly v souths 347 carries 561 tackles
Brisbane v north queensland 352 carries 689 tackles
penrith v Newcastle 354 carries 675 tackles


The thing that jumps out at you with the NRL is how similar from match to match the number of carries is in a game.
You can also see that for the number of carries made the aussies are putting in a lot more defensive effort as seen in their high tackling stat figures.

SL has some games that are fast and open and other games that are a lot slower. The NRL doesn't appear to have this variation. Instead every match is pretty much a slowed down attritional grind.


I think some of this might be down to the contribution and inconsistency of just having the one referee in superleague, the standard or consistency might be higher in OZ, making the games more a similarity.
We have only a few refs that will let the game flow and there is a broader differential of which teams interfere with how the game pans out.
More carries might mean a more forward dominant game, its difficult to assess really.
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Re: Catalans Stats : Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:36 pm  
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Last night just provided even more evidence that Wello just isn't up to Super League level as a forward. On the face of it his defensive stats are great and even I would never question his effort or commitment. But the reality is that he did 30 tackles because the Catalans ran it at him a lot because he's an elderly fullback pretending to be a forward. He can tackle, his technique is exemplary but any prop and any big second row or loose will walk Wello four or five metres after contact because he's not big enough.

35m from 8 carries over 80 minutes? Even those on here trying their hardest to justify Wello's selection will wince at that and admit it's not good enough. Flanagan or Wilkin playing loose for 80 minutes would have the same defensive stats (But with more impact) and probably be around 80-100 metres as well. LMS or Manu playing 13 for 80 minutes against dross like Catalans would top 120m.

Wello being used as a body and cover to enable players to rest is fine, him taking a spot from a player in any position, even the bench, who would add more to the team simply isn't. Him playing every single game this season now looks a certainty.

Laffranchi's stats with the ball are also absolutely awful, absolutely no point passing him the ball.




How badly do Cats rate Roby? they ran at him thirty nine times, it would have been more but for Wellens getting in their way.
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