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Re: Overreaction : Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:37 pm  
theblondebomber wrote:
What does high level mean?

'Kicking a team to death' is all well and good if you have any sort of field positions to start with. Can't do it from your own 20, which bears back to the route cause which is defence and organising to stop them marching down the field in the 1st place. You can take it back further by saying, yes get a good kick in whilst attacking to pin the opposition down. Everything works in phases, and a knock on straight from kick off isn’t the way to start a good one.


I'd like to know the answer to the top line as well. Might have played against him depending on who he's played for.

Leeds do the basics well first and foremost IMO, especially defensively. Our line speed has been poor though which doesn't help. Earlier on in the season we looked much more aggressive and our line speed was a big difference for us early on. We were suffocating teams IMO. The likes of Amor and Walsmley we're finding quick play the ball the balls and Walsh and Hohaia were kicking early, on the front foot. Not happening at the minute and our long kicking game has suffered. Certainly a factor.

We'll improve though. This is a squad who as we all know, haven't won anything together. That's possibly the difference between us and a few other teams, but it will come. We're competing against teams who have a core set of players who know what it takes to win trophies and know what it takes to pull through and dominate those big moments in big games. That's why changing the squad is never the answer, as people have suggested. The foundations are there though in terms of the squad. Plenty of young talent at Saints who have the ability to grow and improve. How far they go is up to them.

Talking of a kicking game, saw Tommy Martyn the other day. Not many better kickers of a ball than him.
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Re: Overreaction : Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:51 pm  
theblondebomber wrote:
What does high level mean?

'Kicking a team to death' is all well and good if you have any sort of field positions to start with. Can't do it from your own 20, which bears back to the route cause which is defence and organising to stop them marching down the field in the 1st place. You can take it back further by saying, yes get a good kick in whilst attacking to pin the opposition down. Everything works in phases, and a knock on straight from kick off isn’t the way to start a good one.


Yes you can. Kick on the 2nd or 3rd tackle whilst the wingers are still up and kick towards touch (but keeping in the field of play), it's a pretty simple tactic when your pack is beat and we should have used it. Force their big men to turn around and run 70m back then have a set of drives and they'll soon tire out.
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Re: Overreaction : Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:59 pm  
BackrowSaint wrote:
Yes you can. Kick on the 2nd or 3rd tackle whilst the wingers are still up and kick towards touch (but keeping in the field of play), it's a pretty simple tactic when your pack is beat and we should have used it. Force their big men to turn around and run 70m back then have a set of drives and they'll soon tire out.


We did it constantly early on this season down the right but they appeared to have sussed Walsh out in that area though. Haven't seen the game back but at the game, I thought he was taking the ball much more centrally on the last than he was early on this season because of their left edge. Could be way of the mark though because I haven't watched the game back. Doesn't help when you have a Wilkin at 6 either I suppose.

Anyone know if Walsh's 40/20 was on the last?
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