Re: Nathan Brown : Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:14 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Brown hasn't done a fine job at all, what are you watching? He has done a fairly average job when you consider the league position. Granted he wasn't dealt a great hand with us having such deficiencies in our squad, but there are no signs the attacking structures that would see us competing in trophies next season avec Walsh are in place or even building towards that. Whilst we haven't had a scrum half this season the moves and set plays shouldn't change much, just the quality of the execution. Walsh isn't going to do all that on his own and it's unfair to expect him to.

You really are a plonker aren't you. He has dealt with most of what has been wrong with the playing staff with his signings for next year. We have finished the season in a far better position than anyone predicted after 5 games, AND WE HAVE CLADDING!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: Nathan Brown : Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:53 pm  

Top Saint wrote:

You really are a plonker aren't you. He has dealt with most of what has been wrong with the playing staff with his signings for next year. We have finished the season in a far better position than anyone predicted after 5 games, AND WE HAVE CLADDING!!!!!!!!!!!

Saddened's just upset because NB wouldn't back his campaign for armrests on his chair or his "in-seat bovril dispenser"

Re: Nathan Brown : Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:52 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Brown hasn't done a fine job at all, what are you watching? He has done a fairly average job when you consider the league position. Granted he wasn't dealt a great hand with us having such deficiencies in our squad, but there are no signs the attacking structures that would see us competing in trophies next season avec Walsh are in place or even building towards that. Whilst we haven't had a scrum half this season the moves and set plays shouldn't change much, just the quality of the execution. Walsh isn't going to do all that on his own and it's unfair to expect him to.

I would agree with you if we look at the first 6 weeks of the season, but we have been in disarray for 2/3 of the season and not all down to Nathan Brown. The club has had to overcome lots of obstacles , I think you need to judge next season on the last 6 weeks of this season.
We have potentially an exciting back line and a powerful pack for next season. Our pivotal positions of 1, 6, 7 9 and 13 look as though its now been established for next season, Nathan Brown will work on game plans and set plays now he has got something to work with.

Take 6, 7 and 9 out of Huddersfield, Warrington, Wigan, Leeds for 2/3 of the season and we would have been a lot more competitive.

Re: Nathan Brown : Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:53 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

Brown hasn't done a fine job at all, what are you watching?

What have YOU been watching?

Re: Nathan Brown : Sun Sep 22, 2013 10:43 pm  

Albion wrote:

What have YOU been watching?

This season? Some of the worst rugby I've ever seen Saints come up with. We've had a couple of months of decent performances recently, but what went before that was pretty shocking.

Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:51 am  

Laughable that you can criticise NB saddened. I'm convinced its just to live up to youre user name as some find it amusing. Unfortunately some of youre comments make you look a bit of a pillock or you don't watch many of the games at all. Fundamental to any side are the pivots. The key positions 1,6,7 & 9. Lomax & Roby have missed huge chunks this season & its took Brown a while to find a half back combination but more so, the likes of Wilkin to develop & understand his role in an alien position. Wigan cant win a game without Tomkins, so I'm not sure what you expect without any key players.
Considering the kids weve bloodied, the squad he's building & the form in the last 3 months as players returned I'd say he's done a great job. Nobody realistically expected us to win anything this year, it was always a re-building process & we look a lot stronger again next season. The Simmons regime & signings were a huge set back for us but we look like getting back on track. It was of no surprise the form of the likes of Manu got better back end of the year as we developed more understanding & continuity in the halves. We miss a leader & organiser & Walsh provides that next year. The pack looks good, Roby & Walsh will thrive behind that & the likes of Turner & Manu will hurt teams with earlier quality ball out wide. One final thing that was beyond reproach was the work ethic & team spirit that squad has developed, epitomised at Leeds. A lot to be positive about.

Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:01 am  

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To be fair to Saddened!, though, we have been unacceptably poor at times this season, injuries or not. However, Brown does seen to have turned things around. Overall I think he's had a pretty ropey season, but his recruitment has demonstrated his awareness of our weak spots and the improvement towards the end of the year has shown that better times are ahead.

One thing we'll always have to live with while Brown is coach is eccentric selection decisions. Sometimes they will work and sometimes they will backfire. Hopefully he will recognise that our best performances came when the side was settled. Having said that, I like the fact that he's not afraid to move people like Wellens out of their established positions. I suppose it's about striking a balance, but I suspect he'll carry on getting it wrong from time to time.

Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:16 am  

Saddened! wrote:

This season? Some of the worst rugby I've ever seen Saints come up with. We've had a couple of months of decent performances recently, but what went before that was pretty shocking.

I agree.

I don't think it's any coincidence that we started to perform better once Brown had stopped his bloody tinkering. I really hope he doesn't start up that again with the new season or else we are probably in for a repeat performance.

Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:52 am  

SaintsFan wrote:

I don't think it's any coincidence that we started to perform better once Brown had stopped his bloody tinkering.

I don't think it's any coincidence that Brown stopped tinkering when he got some bodies back fit . . . .

Re: Nathan Brown : Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:12 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

I don't think it's any coincidence that Brown stopped tinkering when he got some bodies back fit . . . .

He still had his odd moments at the back end of the year, though. That starting pack against Warrington, for example. I think it's just a quirk that we'll have to get used to with Brown. Sometimes it'll reveal something interesting about a player, sometimes it'll cost us points.