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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:46 am  
I feel for Jonny, any injury is bad but one that ends a players season is terrible.
To us supporters RL is our passion and we love it but to the players that put their bodys on the line each week its their living.

I hope Jonny makes a full and speedy recovery as soon as he can.
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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:46 am  
I know bringing Ade back isnt an option but letting him go on a season long loan to HKR seems a massive blunder. Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

Had Cockayne not got injured, Id have said Greg Eden would be a ready made replacement for the rest of the year, but they wont let him go now.

We have shafted ourselves trying to do the right thing and give gardner regular first team rugby.
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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:48 am  
We did the same letting Clough go just as our prop injury list picked up.

Hope it's on the lessons learned for next year.

There is a reason for a squad, you never know who will get injured and when or for how long.
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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:51 am  
bewareshadows wrote:
We did the same letting Clough go just as our prop injury list picked up.

I'm personally glad Gardner has gone because he was past it and we needed to bring on Makinson (who has been great for us bar the last couple of games). However, getting rid of Clough, especially knowing our inability to keep people fit, was one of the most stupid decisions made by our coaching staff.
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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:54 am  
As for Lomax, I'm gutted for him. We will miss him in attack especially as he had formed a good working relationship with Walsh and was looking so much the better for being able to link in with a proper 7. One by one we have been losing our attacking options this season.

One question I did have was is this injured knee the same knee he had just recently injured? Was he returned too soon? Rhetorical question I guess but with our record I'm not confident about our ability to return a player fit to the pitch.

Ian Henderson returned to the Dragons after months out with a broken bone. He tore us a new one. Our previously injured players return to our team and look knackered.
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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:56 am  
Saddened! wrote:
Doesn't matter at all. The team with or without Lomax isn't good enough to win anything anyway.

Am I the only one who thinks Lomax hasn't really kicked on from his youthful promise phase? He's looked very tired this season.

Forget playing Wellens there, what would that achieve? Blood someone new, there must be a young 1,4,5 or 6 that could be brought in?


I think lomax is vital to saints as he links up so well as the extra halfback we lack and also is very dangerous outwide. He links up very well with Walsh.

IMO it's a massive blow to us and especially our attack.
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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:59 am  
bewareshadows wrote:
I'm not fixed on Lomax being a 6 or a 1. However, saying we need to look long term for another 1 or 6, is different to saying throw anyone we currently have at fullback.

Fact 1: If Wellens is fit he is going to play, this can't even be a guess now, we are over halfway through the season. Given that fact. Having him on the bench weakens the team as he does not provide that leadership from there for 60 minutes of the game.
He is not a 6 so playing him there would be bad news.
He is not a forward and regularly posts lets be fair not great figures from that role.

However he can still do a decent job of FB.

Fact 2: Makinson and Swift are our best and most potent wingers. Why make them play elsewhere and put in a less effective winger?

The extra spot freed up from Wellens not playing pack or bench, will allow us to play either another forward. Savellio
Or a replacement for Roby - Is Channock not still with us, could he not do 10 mins each half?

As for Wheeler, that boat has sailed for me. I'm not going to keep faith based on moments of guile and a 40 minute display at Wigan nearly half a decade ago.

Good luck to the lad, but for me we need stability at 7 and 6. So that is Lance and Walsh until one gets injured.

Either way another forward/hooker on the bench will give Roby some help by rest or by soaking up some more tackling.


Agreed, if wellens has to play, it has to be for the majority of the game. And agreed, makinson and swift are currently our 2 strongest wingers. But I'm not suggesting we we just stick anyone in there - I'd just like us to see how well swift takes to the role. He doesn't even need to play there every week, just enough to gauge if it would be an option. He's played the role before at a lower level, and I think he'd have great potential to replicate it in superleague. If it turns into a disaster, then we put him back on the wing, put wellens to fullback and vow never for it to happen again. If he takes to it like a duck to water, we've opened up another option for ourselves next year, by making 1. Swift 6. Lomax 7. Walsh an option, should the quality of 6 not be suitable, meaning we can focus our cap space in other areas (like a quality interchange hooker!)

Charnock is still with us, but seems to be being groomed to take Wilkins role in a couple of years from the reports I've read. Plus brown has "judged him not ready"
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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:13 pm  
The Chief wrote:
I know bringing Ade back isnt an option but letting him go on a season long loan to HKR seems a massive blunder. Hindsight is a wonderful thing!

Had Cockayne not got injured, Id have said Greg Eden would be a ready made replacement for the rest of the year, but they wont let him go now.

We have shafted ourselves trying to do the right thing and give gardner regular first team rugby.


How would Gardner help our full back situation now? We have Dawson to cover either Swift or Makinson if they play at 1.
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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:17 pm  
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How would Gardner help our full back situation now? We have Dawson to cover either Swift or Makinson if they play at 1.


Unless I'm missing something, Swift is presently injured so Dawson and Gardner wings, Makinson to full back.

That said, I'd prefer Ade to Dawson as cover anyway.
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Re: Lomax Out For The Season! : Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:20 pm  
The Chief wrote:
Unless I'm missing something, Swift is presently injured so Dawson and Gardner wings, Makinson to full back.

That said, I'd prefer Ade to Dawson as cover anyway.


I think Swift is very close to a return. Keeping 2 spare wingers would have been a bit daft as one would hardly ever be used.

Besides, I can't see them moving Makinson from the wing with the way he has been finishing tries this season.
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