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Re: Mark Percival : Tue Apr 14, 2015 2:56 pm  
What a brilliant player Paul Newlove was. I felt for Anthony Sullivan because half the time, Newy didn't need him and would go alone.

Gleeson was another excellent centre, and quite a talent. I would probably compare Percival more to him than I would to Newlove. Percival is going to be very good as long as he can stay fit and away from niggly injuries.
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Re: Mark Percival : Tue Apr 14, 2015 4:35 pm  
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What a brilliant player Paul Newlove was. I felt for Anthony Sullivan because half the time, Newy didn't need him and would go alone.

Gleeson was another excellent centre, and quite a talent. I would probably compare Percival more to him than I would to Newlove. Percival is going to be very good as long as he can stay fit and away from niggly injuries.



Gleeson had unreal footwork and must have been murder to defend.

I think Percy has the look of newy when he's got the ball. He has the serve like him.
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Re: Mark Percival : Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:16 pm  
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I saw Newlove at seventeen and it was obvious he was going to be a hit from the very beginning. Played a blinder for Fev at Old Trafford.

He wasn't big in comparison to later years. But clearly above average. I think he was about six-one. But I'm not sure.


It was always hard to tell how big players really were in those days, because they used to wear those great big baggy-tent shirts, so you could put some chunky 15-stoner in one, and he'd still look like a ten-year-old wearing his dad's jumper.
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Re: Mark Percival : Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:19 pm  
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What a brilliant player Paul Newlove was. I felt for Anthony Sullivan because half the time, Newy didn't need him and would go alone.

Gleeson was another excellent centre, and quite a talent. I would probably compare Percival more to him than I would to Newlove. Percival is going to be very good as long as he can stay fit and away from niggly injuries.


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Re: Mark Percival : Tue Apr 14, 2015 6:08 pm  
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No. Burns and Walsh would both be ahead of him I reckon. Him and Makinson seemed to be alternating for a few games but Burns has kicked 17 from 20 since he has been our regular kicker so I can't seye Percival taking over again when he is back.


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Re: Mark Percival : Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:22 pm  
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It was always hard to tell how big players really were in those days, because they used to wear those great big baggy-tent shirts, so you could put some chunky 15-stoner in one, and he'd still look like a ten-year-old wearing his dad's jumper.


It was more Newlove's frame. At 17 he was lanky. But wide lanky. He looked like a professional athlete playing in a Featherstone team where average girth was closer to that found in Union. OLD Union (which is ironic because "professional athlete" is not a term usually associated with Newy). Can't remember the name of that dirty great pudding that pulled on a Fev jumper for many years around the time Newlove was breaking into the first team. You couldn't begin to compare the two in terms of physique.

Never seen a player before or since who between tripping and hitting the ground could make thirty yards. He intuitively grasped how best to micro-manage distributing his body weight to gain the maximum advantage. That's not something you could ever begin to teach.

No disgrace that Percy can't match Newy's balance. But he's making a good fist of his body swerve and fend. If he could develop an in-and-out (which I categorise as more drawn out than a side-step but significantly quicker than a swerve) he'd be devastating. Newy's in-and-out was arguably his most dangerous attribute (although his fend was positively fearsome).
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Re: Mark Percival : Wed Apr 15, 2015 6:22 am  
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It was more Newlove's frame. At 17 he was lanky. But wide lanky. He looked like a professional athlete playing in a Featherstone team where average girth was closer to that found in Union. OLD Union (which is ironic because "professional athlete" is not a term usually associated with Newy). Can't remember the name of that dirty great pudding that pulled on a Fev jumper for many years around the time Newlove was breaking into the first team. You couldn't begin to compare the two in terms of physique.

Never seen a player before or since who between tripping and hitting the ground could make thirty yards. He intuitively grasped how best to micro-manage distributing his body weight to gain the maximum advantage. That's not something you could ever begin to teach.

No disgrace that Percy can't match Newy's balance. But he's making a good fist of his body swerve and fend. If he could develop an in-and-out (which I categorise as more drawn out than a side-step but significantly quicker than a swerve) he'd be devastating. Newy's in-and-out was arguably his most dangerous attribute (although his fend was positively fearsome).


Crazy thing with newy, everyone knew what he was going to do and very few could stop him.
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Re: Mark Percival : Wed Apr 15, 2015 9:54 am  
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Crazy thing with newy, everyone knew what he was going to do and very few could stop him.


Nailed it with that post, mate. When Lyon had the ball, nobody had a clue what he was going to do with it, he was so talented & unpredictable. Yet with Newlove, you could see what he was gonna do but he was still unstoppable with that step, pace and power.

On the other thread it gets mentioned how spoilt we've been with hookers but we've had some fantastic centres too.
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Re: Mark Percival : Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:36 am  
Gibbs was a damned fine centre, too. Lacked the athleticism of Newlove. But he was a superb ball player and absolutely brutal in defence.
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Re: Mark Percival : Wed Apr 15, 2015 10:47 am  
Newlove had everything. It wasn't just the step off his left. Show him the outside and he'd beat you there with his pace, strength and that right hand fend. Once through, he was gone. If the winger came in, he had the vision and handling to put his winger away instead. Brilliant footwork, speed from a standing start, strength, hands and he was also superb defensively. He was a complete one off and it's unfair comparing Percival to him.

Newlove was a marvel to watch. Oh, how we took him for granted. The one player I'd love to be able to see again.
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