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Re: What, no Fages thread? : Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:14 pm  
If Fages is worth 700k then the likes of Williams and Sutcliffe must be worth more then Gareth Bale!

Decent young player but you'd want him on a free or for no more then 30-40k going off the level of potential he's showed to date.
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Re: What, no Fages thread? : Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:49 pm  
Sutcliffe maybe.
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Re: What, no Fages thread? : Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:01 pm  
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If Fages is worth 700k then the likes of Williams and Sutcliffe must be worth more then Gareth Bale!

Decent young player but you'd want him on a free or for no more then 30-40k going off the level of potential he's showed to date.


Totally agree. Everyone's getting giddy at the thought of getting him and I just don't get it. He's an unproven 20 year old surrounded by nothing but Koukash's hype. We should consider him if he's free but I wouldn't pay a penny to get him.
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Re: What, no Fages thread? : Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:20 pm  
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but McDonnell is doing OK at the moment.


Sorry to pick this sentence out, but just wanted to say that the lad playing really really well for us. I'm made up with him. Maybe he's finally found a club that will bring out the v best in him.
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Re: What, no Fages thread? : Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:02 pm  
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Totally agree. Everyone's getting giddy at the thought of getting him and I just don't get it. He's an unproven 20 year old surrounded by nothing but Koukash's hype. We should consider him if he's free but I wouldn't pay a penny to get him.


I've heard plenty of hype about him since he was 16 but I've yet to see him rip defences apart in the way Williams or Sutcliffe have or going back how guys like Eastmond, Tomkins, Lomax or even Gaskell did at points.

I'm sure he's got plenty of improvement in him and he's probably more of a traditional passing half then those I mention but jeez Koukash loves publicity doesn't he :D

I don't recall record fees being demanded for a much better player in Sneyd though.
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Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.

Re: What, no Fages thread? : Wed Jun 10, 2015 1:05 am  
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I've heard plenty of hype about him since he was 16 but I've yet to see him rip defences apart in the way Williams or Sutcliffe have or going back how guys like Eastmond, Tomkins, Lomax or even Gaskell did at points.

I'm sure he's got plenty of improvement in him and he's probably more of a traditional passing half then those I mention but jeez Koukash loves publicity doesn't he :D

I don't recall record fees being demanded for a much better player in Sneyd though.
Put Williams or Sutcliffe in a losing team behind a beaten pack with no halfback partner and no recognized hooker and then we'll talk.
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Re: What, no Fages thread? : Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:23 am  
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Put Williams or Sutcliffe in a losing team behind a beaten pack with no halfback partner and no recognized hooker and then we'll talk.


That hasn't always been the case for Fages though. Granted he's not playing in a team that wins as much as Wigan or Leeds but he's played in plenty of games with a more experienced guy at the side of him when Salford have won.....and still hasn't done much.

Solid young player for sure and he could develop in to a good player but he's a 30-40k gamble not a player you'd spend record sums on.
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Re: What, no Fages thread? : Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:13 pm  
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That hasn't always been the case for Fages though. Granted he's not playing in a team that wins as much as Wigan or Leeds but he's played in plenty of games with a more experienced guy at the side of him when Salford have won.....and still hasn't done much.

Solid young player for sure and he could develop in to a good player but he's a 30-40k gamble not a player you'd spend record sums on.
Not sure why you're expecting a 20 year old player in a poor side to single-handedly carve open teams week after week. The likes of Williams and Sutcliffe haven't been doing that despite the fact that they have had no organizational responsibilities and been playing in a dominant team.

To put it into perspective, at Fages' age Matty Smith was on loan at Widnes in the Championship, and was about to join Celtic Crusaders where he was a bit-part player mostly used as a reserve hooker. Danny Brough had just signed for York in National League 2 after being released by Dewsbury. Again, for Fages at 20 years old to have been the main organizing player in a Super League team for the past 3 years is remarkable, that's why former great halfbacks like Sean Long and Iestyn Harris have been raving about him.
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Re: What, no Fages thread? : Wed Jun 10, 2015 5:23 pm  
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Not sure why you're expecting a 20 year old player in a poor side to single-handedly carve open teams week after week. The likes of Williams and Sutcliffe haven't been doing that despite the fact that they have had no organizational responsibilities and been playing in a dominant team.

To put it into perspective, at Fages' age Matty Smith was on loan at Widnes in the Championship, and was about to join Celtic Crusaders where he was a bit-part player mostly used as a reserve hooker. Danny Brough had just signed for York in National League 2 after being released by Dewsbury. Again, for Fages at 20 years old to have been the main organizing player in a Super League team for the past 3 years is remarkable, that's why former great halfbacks like Sean Long and Iestyn Harris have been raving about him.


I think it's more the record fee that the loony doc wants.
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Re: What, no Fages thread? : Thu Jun 11, 2015 6:13 am  
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Sorry to pick this sentence out, but just wanted to say that the lad playing really really well for us. I'm made up with him. Maybe he's finally found a club that will bring out the v best in him.


Hope so, it might give us the option of using Lomax as a utility back who can also play at 9.
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