Re: Theo Fages : Sat Feb 20, 2016 4:32 pm  

Leaving theo out is very strange Opinions on KC are beginning to swing. He's had a year and we're still playing boring rubbish

Re: Theo Fages : Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:16 am  

Whilst it would have been nice to have a bit of explosive pace last night - I don't see anything to be concerned about just yet.

Theo is still very young and inexperienced. He had only limited opportunities at Salford - especially toward the back end of his time.

Basically he's still in the development phase of his career. Further along the line than Knowles and his cohort - but not the finished article.

Saints are very proud of their junior development system. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that Cunningham has opted for Knowles this early in the season. Had Theo been immediately promoted above kids Saints have invested a lot of work and faith in it wouldn't have sent a great message. Pull your tripe out in what was an excellent season for the kids and your reward is playing second fiddle to a talented but very green youngster who did precisely WHAT last season?

Sometimes there are bigger issues than raw ability. We have a long season ahead of us and Fages will get plenty of opportunities to show what he is capable of.

Re: Theo Fages : Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:06 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Whilst it would have been nice to have a bit of explosive pace last night - I don't see anything to be concerned about just yet.

Theo is still very young and inexperienced. He had only limited opportunities at Salford - especially toward the back end of his time.

Basically he's still in the development phase of his career. Further along the line than Knowles and his cohort - but not the finished article.

Saints are very proud of their junior development system. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that Cunningham has opted for Knowles this early in the season. Had Theo been immediately promoted above kids Saints have invested a lot of work and faith in it wouldn't have sent a great message. Pull your tripe out in what was an excellent season for the kids and your reward is playing second fiddle to a talented but very green youngster who did precisely WHAT last season?

Sometimes there are bigger issues than raw ability. We have a long season ahead of us and Fages will get plenty of opportunities to show what he is capable of.

So you think picking the young inexperienced loose foward in Knowles who's only played twice before the france international who's played many many games in super league and can play hooker makes sense ?

I'm not sure you watched much of Knowles in scholarship or u19s but he's a backrow and not a hooker. He is a real athlete wirh bags of potential but to pick him Over theo is pretty silly.

Re: Theo Fages : Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:18 pm  

St pete wrote:

Nah we signed Tasi, Owens and Peyroux and nobody would have wanted them

To be fair, I've kept quiet on the players we have signed until I've seen them in our line up. I'm fairly happy with Peyroux and Tasi has done the job I expected, not a barnstorming runner but very effective tackler and runs pretty hard.

Owen's is a bit of a punt by the looks of it as our two bigger money fullbacks are crocked.

But e can't really expect to have a great FB for a third choice FB, it would be daft of us to imagine he would be top quality.

Re: Theo Fages : Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:29 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

To be fair, I've kept quiet on the players we have signed until I've seen them in our line up. I'm fairly happy with Peyroux and Tasi has done the job I expected, not a barnstorming runner but very effective tackler and runs pretty hard.

Owen's is a bit of a punt by the looks of it as our two bigger money fullbacks are crocked.

But e can't really expect to have a great FB for a third choice FB, it would be daft of us to imagine he would be top quality.

I'm giving peyroux time. He's only played two games. Not done much wrong and not done anything great but tine will tell.

Tasi looks poor imo. I put his last season at Salford in which is was very poor down to the fact he was at a club with lots of problems on and off the field but he's looked the same this year. His first season at Salford he looked good and was hoping for thst form. He looks soft, lightweight and tbh he looks like he's not interested.

Re: Theo Fages : Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:45 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

To be fair, I've kept quiet on the players we have signed until I've seen them in our line up. I'm fairly happy with Peyroux and Tasi has done the job I expected, not a barnstorming runner but very effective tackler and runs pretty hard.

Owen's is a bit of a punt by the looks of it as our two bigger money fullbacks are crocked.

But e can't really expect to have a great FB for a third choice FB, it would be daft of us to imagine he would be top quality.

Up to now Peyroux hasn't done much wrong, seems to stay in position when defending (unlike Jones when at centre) and seems to be OK when he can get quality ball. Similar with Tasi still finding his feet in the team puts in a honest performance and has given Amor less minutes to do the donkey work and improve his metres made. Owens is a big risk at full back and offers no pivotal attributes at all, would sooner see him on the wing with Swifty at full back until the injured return.

I don't know what we are playing at with Fages, he should be an automatic bench player especially with our hooker and half back problems.............its baffling Owens and Knowles getting game time and Fages sat on his backside in the stands.

Re: Theo Fages : Sun Feb 21, 2016 5:40 pm  

I'm as baffled as everyone else regarding Fages. You'd think he'd want to blood him into the side with the injuries. As he rubbed KC up the wrong way?

Re: Theo Fages : Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:23 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

I'm as baffled as everyone else regarding Fages. You'd think he'd want to blood him into the side with the injuries. As he rubbed KC up the wrong way?

I heard theo wanted to pass the ball Wide In training but KC went mad and said he should be driving it in like a prop and told him never pass

Re: Theo Fages : Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:56 pm  

St pete wrote:

So you think picking the young inexperienced loose foward in Knowles who's only played twice before the france international who's played many many games in super league and can play hooker makes sense ?

I'm not sure you watched much of Knowles in scholarship or u19s but he's a backrow and not a hooker. He is a real athlete wirh bags of potential but to pick him Over theo is pretty silly.

Players moving up from the academy regularly play out of position. And no one can deny that Knowles deserves a shot based on his performances last year.

Speculation that Fages would have performed better in that position is precisely that.

Re: Theo Fages : Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:10 pm  

I don't buy that Theo is inexperienced, he has played over 60 Super League games. I couldn't believe that Cunningham chose a back-rower at stand-off, a stand-off at hooker as well as an actual inexperienced kid as interchange hooker, all above Theo. Madness.