Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Tue Sep 23, 2014 7:48 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

It would suggest he likes to take the line on, with his tackle busts and offloads suggesting he's confident in contact.

That's what he is known for, which should complement Walsh well as Walsh isn't as keen on taking on the line (although he does do it to great effect when he chooses to). Walsh would be the organiser and provider; Burns the feisty go-to man.

Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Wed Sep 24, 2014 6:49 am  

Offside Monkey wrote:

On a good day, Turner's a great player. he just seems to puntucate them with horrors, much like LMS, much like Saints.

As Percy has developed, he seems more and more like our star centre. I think its much more likely that Turner will play centre and Jones will(should) play 13. Jones at 13 should be able to combine the high defensive workload that you need somewhere in your back row with a dynamic pseudo centre attacking game outwide - in a similar manner to when Darren Smith was here. Leaving the other two back row slots to be filled by bigger lads.

I'd go
Lomax
Swift Percival Turner Makinson
Burns Walsh
Amor Robes Walmsley
Vea LMS
Jones

Hohaia, Masoe, Thompson, Savelio/Greenwood/Richards/Flash/Wilkin/Any new signing

I've got to say that once you dilute Wilkin's versatility, he becomes a lot less valuable to us. He's too small and nice for a top club back row in the current game.

You can never describe Turher as "great". He's nowhere near great, he's at times not even average and for 60% of the year been utter rubbish.

His defence is woeful. He's half hearted. He just plods in and hits the ground but every few month he churns out a decent performance but that is by no means great.

If a decent centre came available like Marsh at Widnes I'd have no hesitation in swapping him

Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:35 am  

St pete wrote:

You can never describe Turher as "great". He's nowhere near great, he's at times not even average and for 60% of the year been utter rubbish.

His defence is woeful. He's half hearted. He just plods in and hits the ground but every few month he churns out a decent performance but that is by no means great.

If a decent centre came available like Marsh at Widnes I'd have no hesitation in swapping him

Maybe I exaggerate, but he's done some very good things in the red vee, on occasion. That's the most frustrating thing about him, for me.

Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Wed Sep 24, 2014 11:28 am  

I like Turner.

I would have dropped, him early when he was poor, just like we did with swift. But I would not call him poor.

Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Wed Sep 24, 2014 1:23 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I like Turner.

I would have dropped, him early when he was poor, just like we did with swift. But I would not call him poor.

I wasn,t just going to say the same thing, we were justified to call him and LMS poor at the beginning of the season. But since we,ve had all these injury dissruptions both Turner and LMS have had to play different roles and are very prominent in how we have adapted to our different play.
In fact I would say Turner looks as though he is enjoying his rugby, gone is the frustrating search for form and now he is just getting on with it and is now looking a proper team player.

Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Wed Sep 24, 2014 3:38 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

I wasn,t just going to say the same thing, we were justified to call him and LMS poor at the beginning of the season. But since we,ve had all these injury dissruptions both Turner and LMS have had to play different roles and are very prominent in how we have adapted to our different play.
In fact I would say Turner looks as though he is enjoying his rugby, gone is the frustrating search for form and now he is just getting on with it and is now looking a proper team player.

Turner is average at best

Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Thu Sep 25, 2014 11:29 am  

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/sai ... vis_Burns/ Some nice comments from Luke Walsh with regards to playing alongside Burns. Sounds like those two are good mates which will only add to their on-field relationship. The article also states Hohaia is staying which is good news as well I think. 1.Lomax 6.Burns 7.Walsh 9.Roby 14.Hohaia

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/sai ... vis_Burns/ Some nice comments from Luke Walsh with regards to playing alongside Burns. Sounds like those two are good mates which will only add to their on-field relationship. The article also states Hohaia is staying which is good news as well I think. 1.Lomax 6.Burns 7.Walsh 9.Roby 14.Hohaia

Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Thu Sep 25, 2014 12:29 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

http://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/saints/news/11495541.Luke_Walsh_looking_forward_to_teaming_up_with_his_mate_Travis_Burns/

Some nice comments from Luke Walsh with regards to playing alongside Burns. Sounds like those two are good mates which will only add to their on-field relationship.

The article also states Hohaia is staying which is good news as well I think.

1.Lomax
6.Burns
7.Walsh
9.Roby
14.Hohaia

Indeed.

I think Burns could turn into a real crowd pleaser. Everyone loves a tryer.

Also good news on Lance, I think. He's rounded his game well so he'll slot in alongside Walsh or Burns (when t'other's injured) in a much more successful manner to when he arrived. He's also fairly sparky on the field and good to have around, even if its just to spell Robes.

Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:09 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Indeed.

I think Burns could turn into a real crowd pleaser. Everyone loves a tryer.

Also good news on Lance, I think. He's rounded his game well so he'll slot in alongside Walsh or Burns (when t'other's injured) in a much more successful manner to when he arrived. He's also fairly sparky on the field and good to have around, even if its just to spell Robes.

I agree. Even just a 25 minute spell for Roby every week would help. Roby is a machine and go on all night without it affecting his work-rate too much but a little breather either side of half time would increase his effectiveness I reckon.

Hohaia could also then slot in at 1,6 or 7 during a game should we pick up any knocks.

Not sure what it would mean for Wellens and his place in the 17 though. We couldn't carry have Wellens AND Hohaia on the bench.

Re: Welcome to St Helens Travis Burns : Thu Sep 25, 2014 1:12 pm  

I'm excited for next year. Another prop, in the mould of Gibbs, would make us favourites IMO.