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Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:50 am  
There is no point saying fans should not have a go at a player if they feel there is a lack of loyalty.

Part of sport has always been cheering your own and booing those who are not.

CLubs sell loyalty and passion as part of their marketing. Sport is psychological as well as physical.

So if he is moving to Warrington, he's going to get it off the fans. There are no two ways about it. Either you want fans to partake in the game and show passion and turn up, or you want sport to be played in an empty stadia with just a TV audience to take the emotion and passion away.

Take Gary Connelly, he got it in the neck for years and years off Saints fans. We can't go out there and tackle the players, but we can do our best to knock their confidence.

You may not like it and feel everyone should be professional about it, but even players give each other verbals on the field. You play for money but the people paying the wages have the right to express themselves too.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:10 pm  
bewareshadows wrote:
There is no point saying fans should not have a go at a player if they feel there is a lack of loyalty.

Part of sport has always been cheering your own and booing those who are not.

CLubs sell loyalty and passion as part of their marketing. Sport is psychological as well as physical.

So if he is moving to Warrington, he's going to get it off the fans. There are no two ways about it. Either you want fans to partake in the game and show passion and turn up, or you want sport to be played in an empty stadia with just a TV audience to take the emotion and passion away.

Take Gary Connelly, he got it in the neck for years and years off Saints fans. We can't go out there and tackle the players, but we can do our best to knock their confidence.

You may not like it and feel everyone should be professional about it, but even players give each other verbals on the field. You play for money but the people paying the wages have the right to express themselves too.



Good post , its all part of the game. If he does leave and head to Dire he will be the new Connolly and I'd expect him to get slaughtered everytime he plays us. Been a few years since we've heard 'Judas' chants :lol:
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Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:01 pm  
Hi chaps. Sorry about the previous posts. Had a few too many last night. I'm not a big fan of Saints due to the fact you've done us over more times than I'd like to remember. In a funny sort of way it's respect. If I didn't genuinely fear and respect the red vee, then I wouldn't have posted those comments. All the best and (kind of) good luck in CC.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:48 pm  
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Hi chaps. Sorry about the previous posts. Had a few too many last night. I'm not a big fan of Saints due to the fact you've done us over more times than I'd like to remember. In a funny sort of way it's respect. If I didn't genuinely fear and respect the red vee, then I wouldn't have posted those comments. All the best and (kind of) good luck in CC.


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Re: Andre Savelio : Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:26 pm  
I very much doubt that Savelio is being treated harsher than any other youngster who has come through the Saints ranks.

How many kids over the last thirty years, who have been any good, have left the club prematurely? Which means Saints are very good at matching the financial needs of the player against the restrictions imposed by the balance sheet.

Savelio seems to think his talents are above that which every other kid (right up to the likes of James Graham) has been satisfied with.

It's a sad situation, but ultimately the club is right not to roll over in the face of a loaded gun. Had they done so then every other kid at the club would instantly have cause to look at their own contracts.

Besides, we're not short of talented kids coming through who can slot into the back row. Young Knowles is a cracking prospect and by next season he'll be knocking on the door for a shot on the bench.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:38 am  
What is Andre best position now and in the future?
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Re: Andre Savelio : Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:50 am  
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What is Andre best position now and in the future?


I'd say loose now. Probably end up as prop if he continues to get bigger, but could play anywhere in the pack.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:47 am  
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What is Andre best position now and in the future?



i don,t think the club really knows, he can,t do really long minutes what might be required at loose forward, we,ve been using him as prop behind Amor, Walmsley, Richards and Mose, prior to injuries second row was Vea, Greenwood and Thompson. He,s not really nailed down a position for himself and has been used sparingly.
A really fit Sav playing a bit smarter probably loose forward, trouble is he seems to be a bit laid back and needed to be more dynamic and energetic.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:28 pm  
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What is Andre best position now and in the future?


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Re: Andre Savelio : Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:05 pm  
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I thought that he put some good hits in today, carried the ball up well.
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