: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:07 am  

Saint Rabban wrote:

The Goon is correct.
Shown up good stylee by Nick Bradley-Koalabear.

Im sure Roby also played on the wing once at Leeds?

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:37 am  

Saint Rabban wrote:

The Goon is correct.
Shown up good stylee by Nick Bradley-Koalabear.

Not bad for a gowg (grumpy old Wigan git) eh.

But I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday morning.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:44 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

But I can't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday morning.

A real reply to this, in an anti wigoon voice would be "your moma".. but I am to amture to say such a thing, so I will go for "you missed breakfast, and just had an early luncheon at the Beeches in standish?

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:45 am  

TheJudge wrote:

Im sure Roby also played on the wing once at Leeds?

He did - but at and against The Broncos.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:46 am  

ST_CONROY wrote:

Two things. If he was "up to fitness" he'd be able to play the full 80. Secondly, why would you play a winger for only 60 munutes. You'd have to have a winger/back on the bench and that would significantly impact our forward capabilities. We'd be a prop lite on the bench.

Good to have him back but he doesn' deserve to be near the squad until maybe Hull at home over easter.

He shouldn't just walk into the team. he needs to prove that:

A) He is fit. Mentally and phsyically.
B) Up to date with Potters plans/training stuff etc
C) He deserves it. Armstrong is doing fine, until he plays badly then he stays in the team.

Any player returning from injury or long term absence isn't up to "match fitness" - at the start of a season everyone is the same boat so it doesn't matter but now everyone else is 5 games in he would tire out much quicker. How does any player return from injury without being spelled? Not neccesarily the Leeds game as it is a big one but unless he plays some part of games he'll never get that level of fitness from training alone.

We don't have to have a winger on the bench - if he feels ok after 60 leave him on - if not stick Gilmour there he is still quicker than our wingers as it is.

and just on C) - Tom wasn't in the team against Salford what makes you think he'd be back in this week? Not that i don't agree he has done well enough so far just wonder if Potter hasn't seen enough...and if you drop every player for playing badly once god help them!

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:54 pm  

Saint Rabban wrote:

Get him in from the start. 60 minutes to destroy Ryan Hall, like he did in the Grand Final Score a hatrick get a well earned rest and be replaced for the last 20 by Maurie.

Been on the ale?

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:30 pm  

Sod putting Jammer on the wing, get Vila Matautia out of retirement.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:54 pm  

Chris Saint wrote:

Any player returning from injury or long term absence isn't up to "match fitness" - at the start of a season everyone is the same boat so it doesn't matter but now everyone else is 5 games in he would tire out much quicker.

Indeed.

Chris Saint wrote:

How does any player return from injury without being spelled? Not neccesarily the Leeds game as it is a big one but unless he plays some part of games he'll never get that level of fitness from training alone.

He needs to build his fitness up in training and then be played when he is up to a sufficient level of fitness. For all we know he has done no training at all.

Chris Saint wrote:

We don't have to have a winger on the bench - if he feels ok after 60 leave him on - if not stick Gilmour there he is still quicker than our wingers as it is.

Why risk that though, it's just a stupid thing to do. Play a winger who won't be fit for 60 minutes and put a second row on the wing if he gets tired. If that is the case who will go to centre to replace Gilly?

Why take that chance instead of playing somebody who, while maybe a centre, has done nothing wrong so far on the wing and keep everybody else in position instead of playing Meli for 60 minutes and completely re-jigging your team.

Makes no sense.

Chris Saint wrote:

and just on C) - Tom wasn't in the team against Salford what makes you think he'd be back in this week? Not that i don't agree he has done well enough so far just wonder if Potter hasn't seen enough...and if you drop every player for playing badly once god help them!

No i wouldn't drop every player for playing bad. Meli needs to earn his spot, not just waltz back into the wing spot doing nothing and being in the UK for two days. Especially when the situation is entirely his own fault.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:56 pm  

The simple thing is though none of us know what his fitness level is like at the moment so any guessing as to such is purely speculation. I think we have to just have faith that Potter knows the players and the team and will judge what he thinks will be best for the team in each game when selecting who plays.

He isn't going to pick Meli if he isn't convinced he is fit enough for the game.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:58 pm  

gateaux wrote:

The simple thing is though none of us know what his fitness level is like at the moment so any guessing as to such is purely speculation. I think we have to just have faith that Potter knows the players and the team and will judge what he thinks will be best for the team in each game when selecting who plays.

He isn't going to pick Meli if he isn't convinced he is fit enough for the game.

You should work for the club. You defend everything and sit on the fence so much you must have splinters.

He isn't in the 19 man squad anyway.