Re: Our best lineup : Fri Feb 07, 2014 3:38 pm  

Lomax
Makinson Jones Percy Turner (yes as a winger)
Wheeler Walsh
LaFrank Roby Walms
Manu Flash
LMS
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Wilkin Mossy Sol Amor

Reasonings...

Basing the structure on what South Sydney do, for the first 20 hit the opposition hard going forward with 3 props dominating. after 20-25 take off a prop, and move Wilkin to loose, then you have more options playing Wilkin as a ball playing Loose who can link up with the halves offering another aspect to your attack.

Thought about adding more size and power to your backline with Jones as a centre and Turner on the wing, then you have a nice mix of pace and power across the backline.

Just a thought!

Re: Our best lineup : Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:57 pm  

I would be interested to see turner on the wing actually.

Re: Our best lineup : Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:03 pm  

saintcj wrote:

I would be interested to see turner on the wing actually.

If we had two good centres he'd make a good winger but when we are weak in the centre and at stand off we would be completely mad playing him wing.

Re: Our best lineup : Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:17 am  

St pete wrote:

If we had two good centres he'd make a good winger but when we are weak in the centre and at stand off we would be completely mad playing him wing.

Wheeler as a 6, Jones and Percy in the centres.

Re: Our best lineup : Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:59 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

What's wrong with Clough? IMO he's one of the most underrated players in Superleague. In many ways he reminds me of Harrison Hansen in that he a fantastic workhorse of a forward, makes his tackles, makes his metres and never let's anyone down. O.K he may not look spectacular, but you need players like that in every team, someone who does the hard graft week in week out.

I think the old saying "familiarity breeds contempt" applies.

I would add the proviso though that since Paul suffered a serious neck injury in 2011, he has not hit the same performance heights, and do wonder if this is affecting his ability to play to the max. I do recall that the injury nearly finished his career.

Interesting you raise Harrison Hanson as I thought you really missed him last night against Huddersfield. The Fartown pack blew Wigan open through the middle on a number of occasions. Something that rarely happened against Wigan last year.

Re: Our best lineup : Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:12 pm  

Last Son of Wigan wrote:

Wheeler as a 6, Jones and Percy in the centres.

Why the hell would we put our player of the year for 2013, our leading try scorer, possibly one of the few backs that can make a break on the wing and use two untested young lads in the centre?

Re: Our best lineup : Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:34 pm  

If they are all fit, then come the end of the season if everyone goes as we hope I would play.

Lomax Makinson Turner Percival Swift Wheeler Walsh
Amor Roby Laffranchi
Sia Manu
LMS

Walmsley, Masoe, Jones, Lance

Re: Our best lineup : Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:02 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

If they are all fit, then come the end of the season if everyone goes as we hope I would play.

Lomax Makinson Turner Percival Swift Wheeler Walsh
Amor Roby Laffranchi
Sia Manu
LMS

Walmsley, Masoe, Jones, Lance

You would really select Hohaia and Jones ahead of Wilkin ?!

Re: Our best lineup : Sun Feb 09, 2014 12:07 am  

Lomax
Makinson
Turner
Percival
Swift
Wheeler
Walsh
Amor
Roby
McCarthy-Scarsbrook
Manu
Soliola
Wilkin

Bench

Hohaia
Jones
Walmsley
Masoe

Re: Our best lineup : Sun Feb 09, 2014 7:45 am  

Roy Haggerty wrote:

You would really select Hohaia and Jones ahead of Wilkin ?!

Yep.

Obviously during the season there would be a range of teams, but I think against the best teams LMS at loose forward will be ideal. There maybe changes dependent upon form, but in a final against the best team, you can't expect Roby to be at his best for a full 80 so he needs a replacement hooker.

Only Saints have experimented with this play Roby for a full 80 and to me it reduces his effectiveness and Lance is the best replacement for him at the moment. Running at tired legs he should have some effectiveness. Roby too can go more all out for the minutes he's on the pitch rather than having to pace himself.

Jones as a sub in a final is great. He can play as well as any other 2nd rower in the team probably apart from Sia and Manu. But if there is an injury at centre (like we had with Shenton) you are not shuffling the pack, he just slots in. If a winger is injured, Turner or Percival can move over and Jones fill in at centre.
If a half is injured. Lance can slot in, or Lomax can move forwards and Shift a winger to FB with jones moving in at Centre.

It's a big bench and our most flexible bench. Wilkin whilst doing a sterling job at half last year, I don't think would offer the same effectiveness as an interchange hooker as lance and would only offer the same as Jones as a second rower, without the ability to play in the backs.