Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:43 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Bit of both I think. I seem to recall getting the impression they were "professionally incompatible".

It must have been hard for Wane to accept that Long knew far more about the game than he.

Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:48 pm  

Our Coach has made a comment in the St Helens Star:

“Me and Longy are good mates and always will be, but I don’t know the dynamics of where he is at with Salford.

“I have probably had a million messages off Longy but I know he is in Australia at the minute coaching with Samoa in the Four Nations,”

So it looks like Longy has been asking is there a job going?????

Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:06 pm  

I'm not convinced on Long. If he proves himself at Salford then look at him but they haven't exactly set the league on fire. If anything they've gone backwards since Noble left.

Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:36 pm  

McClennan wrote:

I'm not convinced on Long. If he proves himself at Salford then look at him but they haven't exactly set the league on fire. If anything they've gone backwards since Noble left.

Nothing to do with 70% new playing staff,a new coach, plus Hock's distruption and the Owner coming out with all sorts in the media upsetting the camp?

Or Long could be a rubbish coach.

Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:57 pm  

If you remember the Smith - Holdsworth - Patten attacking triangle they had, it was extremely effective. Phil Vievers gave all the credit for the attacking work to Long. It was a belting set up given Salford's other deficiencies at the time. It also re-launched Matty Smith's career.

That sort of thing is exactly what we need and given the step up in quality from Smith-Holdsworth-Patten to Walsh-Burns-Lomax, together with a better team around them, we could be looking at something very exciting.

Salford today is a bloody minefield. I don't think you can judge any individual on what's going on there, with all the disruption.

Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:27 pm  

I thought they did alot better after noble left????

Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Thu Oct 23, 2014 4:28 pm  

That's fair enough but I'm not sure the words of a guy who he worked with carries that more weight. I mean, Matty Smith is pretty much the same player he was at Saints. He hasn't added much to his game with the ball in hand. Certainly, I'd be surprised if Long could teach Walsh anything about how to play half back.

Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Thu Oct 23, 2014 5:16 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Longy won't coach "Thugby".

Which you can understand given the permanent disfigurement that he suffered from the assault by the verminous scum Newton

Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:34 pm  

Wigan are extremely structured, thats not Longy's way at all and thats probably were any "professional incompatabilities" come from

Re: Sean Long returns to Saints : Fri Oct 24, 2014 5:56 am  

McClennan wrote:

I'm not convinced on Long. If he proves himself at Salford then look at him but they haven't exactly set the league on fire. If anything they've gone backwards since Noble left.

Smith said he enjoyed working with Long when they were both at Salford and Smith did look very good when he was there.