Re: Stuart Howarth : Wed Jan 07, 2015 6:35 am  

I don't think he was the worse player playing in the red V, for a bit more accuracy probably the worse hooker in the red V.
We also need to factor in also that he also was shifted to half back and back 3 forward as well, so Brown very much used him as a stop gap to cover for our injury problems.

Re: Stuart Howarth : Wed Jan 07, 2015 4:28 pm  

Nickles Forearm wrote:

I'll throw a few in;

Phil Adamson - absolute pap

Gray Viane, Tricky Trindall (the fact he never played doesn't help him), Wayne McDonald.

Paul Southern on loan, rubbish

Could go on & that's just Super League era.

Leon Felton. Man, he was rubbish.

Re: Stuart Howarth : Wed Jan 07, 2015 8:01 pm  

I think all the players mentioned above were better than Howarth

Re: Stuart Howarth : Wed Jan 07, 2015 11:24 pm  

Southport Saint you clearly never seen 'we signed the wrong brother' Phil Adamson play for us !

Re: Stuart Howarth : Thu Jan 08, 2015 11:50 am  

I stand by my opinion

Re: Stuart Howarth : Thu Jan 08, 2015 5:59 pm  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

I've been a regular for slightly longer and off the top of my head I can't remember many worse than him.

The ones that do jump out are Bryan Henare, Ricky Bibey, who ridiculously has a Challenge Cup medal from his time with us and I thought Damien Smith was awful too.

Henare was awful. Terrible terrible signing and I think he was worse than howarth tbh. Adamson was another on par with those two.

Bibey and smith was crap but not like howarth.

Re: Stuart Howarth : Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:29 am  

If I'm not mistaken Adamson, Henare & Darrell Trindall who are clearly some of our worst signings in recent years, were all brought in by Ellery Hanley. Worse still were all brought in as players to stay long term

At least Howarth, as bad as he was, was always a short term fix due to lack of players.

Re: Stuart Howarth : Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:44 am  

I liked Howarth. Clearly not worth signing full time, but he did well for us during a very difficult period. He had a couple of cracking games and his defense was superb.

Re: Stuart Howarth : Fri Jan 09, 2015 6:37 am  

Nickles Forearm wrote:

If I'm not mistaken Adamson, Henare & Darrell Trindall who are clearly some of our worst signings in recent years, were all brought in by Ellery Hanley. Worse still were all brought in as players to stay long term

At least Howarth, as bad as he was, was always a short term fix due to lack of players.

Exactly, the 3 mentioned were key signings and were very poor, with Howarth he was a stop gap signing and should really be judged as such. Can,t fault him for effort, just needed long term coaching to improve his skillset.

Re: Stuart Howarth : Fri Jan 09, 2015 7:43 am  

Nickles Forearm wrote:

If I'm not mistaken Adamson, Henare & Darrell Trindall who are clearly some of our worst signings in recent years, were all brought in by Ellery Hanley. Worse still were all brought in as players to stay long term

At least Howarth, as bad as he was, was always a short term fix due to lack of players.

You are mistaken. Adamson was signed by the board.
Adamson was not a bad player at all, but Hanley chose point blank not to play him after the first couple of games. I hypothesise that it was to show who was in charge of his squad.

People always call Adamson as a poor player, but he wasn't. He did okay if his 3 games before he was dropped. I went to a lot of reserve games that year and he was always head and shoulders above the rest, but NEVER ever got picked for first team duty, despite us having Paul Davison stinking up the pack (remember him, even the Saints fans booed him he was that crap).

Hanley had his plus points, but he was a bloody weirdo at times.