Re: Tupou try : Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:01 am  

Mike Oxlong wrote:

At the end of the day, Holbrook isn't there to make players happy, he's paid to win trophies, which means making decisions that not everyone is going to like - fans and/or players! Professional players will accept it, non professional players with throw their toys out of the pram, and there are plenty of other clubs out there for players like that.

What would you rather have - a happy bunch of 20 odd players that are all best bum chums and finish 3rd, 4th, 5th or below, or a group of hungry players that want to fight and win and work hard and finish 1st and win trophies?

Mate, he's been awful and it's down to not being fit. You can play players that unfit . He s not earned his spot in the two games, he's made mistakes, he's unfit and Danny brough and Michael Dobson will be rubbing their hands.

I'd imagine it's knocking his confidence as well. Big NRL superstar and Dally M winner playing so bad and being made to look like he has.

Holbrook should take him to one side, tell him he's not fit enough to play from start at moment and put him on bench and he can come again next year.

Let's get fit players playing in their positions and push for a semi place.

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Re: Tupou try : Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:10 am  

St pete wrote:

Mate, he's been awful and it's down to not being fit. You can play players that unfit . He s not earned his spot in the two games, he's made mistakes, he's unfit and Danny brough and Michael Dobson will be rubbing their hands.

I'd imagine it's knocking his confidence as well. Big NRL superstar and Dally M winner playing so bad and being made to look like he has.

Holbrook should take him to one side, tell him he's not fit enough to play from start at moment and put him on bench and he can come again next year.

Let's get fit players playing in their positions and push for a semi place.

Again I don't disagree with you, but the question is how do you get him fit without playing him? Coming off the bench for 20 mins a week for 3 weeks isn't gonna do it - and what happens if somehow we manage to make it to the GF, he's played an hours rugby over the 4 or 5 games, and Lomax, Fages, etc goes down with a broken leg in the semi final - would be even worse to throw him in at that stage having played so few minutes.

I know it's all if's, but's and maybe's at the moment, but if he hadn't played him, we wouldn't know, and fans on the other side of the coin would be moaning saying we have a world class player that we aren't playing, so can't win either way.

Re: Tupou try : Tue Sep 12, 2017 12:19 pm  

Mike Oxlong wrote:

Again I don't disagree with you, but the question is how do you get him fit without playing him? Coming off the bench for 20 mins a week for 3 weeks isn't gonna do it - and what happens if somehow we manage to make it to the GF, he's played an hours rugby over the 4 or 5 games, and Lomax, Fages, etc goes down with a broken leg in the semi final - would be even worse to throw him in at that stage having played so few minutes.

I know it's all if's, but's and maybe's at the moment, but if he hadn't played him, we wouldn't know, and fans on the other side of the coin would be moaning saying we have a world class player that we aren't playing, so can't win either way.

You do have to play to get match fit I agree with that 200% but he's not going to get match fit this year and only 2 games to go.

Even if he did get some fitness back he will lose it all come him going home for winter if it was early season then yeah play him and get him fit for the business end bit it's Not, it's the make or break part of the year and can't carry people.

It's about the TEAM trying to win the grand final and not trying to get Ben Barba fit.

Re: Tupou try : Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:11 pm  

Not to shabby from Barba tonight... Looks like he's getting acclimatised.