Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 8:39 pm  

St pete wrote:

I don't think he's ready and I don't think he will make it in super league at a top club. Just my opinion

I will trust Browns judgement that he's not ready, that fair enough. The want it now culture of saints fans is out in force though (same with Savelio)

He will go one of two ways (as with most youngsters who have a rep before making first team) - he'll either thrive and go on to superstardom or fail to live up to expectation and end up as Bradford fodder. No way for any of us to really tell which way it'll go

Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:25 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

I will trust Browns judgement that he's not ready, that fair enough. The want it now culture of saints fans is out in force though (same with Savelio)

He will go one of two ways (as with most youngsters who have a rep before making first team) - he'll either thrive and go on to superstardom or fail to live up to expectation and end up as Bradford fodder. No way for any of us to really tell which way it'll go

Nobody would be talking about Charnock if we had a proper stand off at the club and Walsh was fit, it's not like he's bee. Tipped to be a star or even stands out at u19s like the likes of Percy, Saveilio, Richards etc has.

If Brown doesn't think Charnock is ready, then he's 100% right not to pick him but regarding Andre, it seems strange he's not played more often but IMO we are being cautious due to his recent illness and injuries.

Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:33 pm  

Alls I'm saying is he plays in the position wer looking for and need , a full back and 2nd rower wer using when a young lad could play maybe won't be a world class kid but should do a job , he will get experience and can only get better at what he does ,

Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:35 pm  

Oh and maybe if he was in and out the team and had a chance we wouldn't be panicking who wer gonna play at 6 and 7 now

Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:44 pm  

If u don't give the lad a chance how is he gonna prove his self , if it was Wigan he'd be in the team , it's all good having versatility in a player but won't help the development

Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:46 pm  

St pete wrote:

Nobody would be talking about Charnock if we had a proper stand off at the club and Walsh was fit, it's not like he's bee. Tipped to be a star or even stands out at u19s like the likes of Percy, Saveilio, Richards etc has.

If Brown doesn't think Charnock is ready, then he's 100% right not to pick him but regarding Andre, it seems strange he's not played more often but IMO we are being cautious due to his recent illness and injuries.

Disagree on that one mate, obviously I can only go off what I read about it, but he's regularly mentioned in reviews, and been picked out by a couple of opposition fans as standouts. He has the skills, but so did Yates, Ellis and a few others, it's up to him to be patient, take his chances and continue to develop

Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:47 pm  

barry1982 wrote:

Alls I'm saying is he plays in the position wer looking for and need , a full back and 2nd rower wer using when a young lad could play maybe won't be a world class kid but should do a job , he will get experience and can only get better at what he does ,

Except he isn't. Were fine for 13. If you want to be calling for a youngster, Hewitt is your man. As for being world class, people far more knowledgable than either of us have deemed that not to be the case yet (not to say he won't go on to be) - since you bring up the all hail wigans fabulous development brigade throwing charnock in now would be the equivalent of what Wigan did a couple of years ago with brown and Robinson, too much too young, burn them out, and letting them have half the career they could,

Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:52 pm  

He played 9 last week can prob play a few positions as he is at saints , and wasn't scully a 13

Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:55 pm  

He could of played a few times this year at the lesser teams and ant , saints had hoped Walsh wouldn't get injured it's back fired again , he would do a job that's what I'm trying to put across

Re: walsh injury : Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:57 pm  

barry1982 wrote:

He played 9 last week can prob play a few positions as he is at saints , and wasn't scully a 13

And your comparing a 19 year old to one of the most complete players in a generation in Sculthorpe. Were in serious danger of a Gaskell mrk.II here...

And brown and the other coaches at saints disagree with you, they deem him not ready. That doesn't mean he won't ever be, but throwing him in at the business end this year will do far more damage than good. As would playing him against "lesser teams" earlier in the season because he's not ready. Our junior 7 is Hewitt, if your going to champion throwing a kid in, then that's the name you need to be calling for.