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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:35 am  
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From seeing him week in week out, what would you say Fages strength's and weaknesses are?


He's fit. He'll never give up. He'll always give his all. Decent support game. Decent distributor.

He's not a natural line-breaker, poor kicking game, and can get knocked about in defense. He doesn't seem to be a natural organiser.
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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:44 am  
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He's fit. He'll never give up. He'll always give his all. Decent support game. Decent distributor.

He's not a natural line-breaker, poor kicking game, and can get knocked about in defense. He doesn't seem to be a natural organiser.


Just a comparison to our current half backs:

Walsh : 105 tackles, 45 missed in 16 games
Burns : 508 tackles, 74 missed in 25 games
Fages : 424 tackles, 48 missed in 19 games

Fages: 1005 meters gained (Walsh 346, Burns 780), gave away 7 penalties (Burns 23, Walsh 9)

His defensive stats don't look too bad in comparison to Burns and Walsh.

Perhaps he isn't as bad as some Salford fans, whose club he is leaving, make him out to be. :D
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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:00 am  
Any Salford who criticising are doing so with their Salford tinted glasses on, because of the manner which he left the club. It was a very unprofessional move by Theo and did absolutely nothing to expedite his release from Salford to Saints, although one thing it did do was reduce the transfer fee enormously. If you look at how Lama Tasi, Harrison Hansen and Cory Paterson have all handled their business, Theo has come across as very petulant in all of this. I accept his management team have orchestrated it all but ultimately the decisions lie with him. When that is said and done, it must have been tough for him to accept us signing Michael Dobson on a 4 year deal which effectively meant he wouldn't get the number 7 shirt until he was 25 - a stupid move by the club.

Theo is a good player, who has the potential to become very good. Don't forget the kid is only 21 and has played 66 games scoring 20 tries in the process. The vast majority of those games have been played in struggling Salford teams too. I expect under Cunningham and Longs management and training around James Roby, Luke Walsh and Jon Wilkin on a daily basis he will fulfil his very promising potential at Saints.

No doubt his biggest flaw is his kicking game, but what 21-year-old half backs do you know that can control a game in Super League with their kicking? We seen signs that this was already improving this season, no doubt influenced by Michael Dobson. He's tough and strong in defence for his size, his willingness to attack the line will impress as will his backing-up.

You've got yourself a good player, who I have no doubts will be your first choice 7 for years and years to come.

PS - should be announced either today or tomorrow.
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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:08 am  
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Any Salford who criticising are doing so with their Salford tinted glasses on, because of the manner which he left the club. It was a very unprofessional move by Theo and did absolutely nothing to expedite his release from Salford to Saints, although one thing it did do was reduce the transfer fee enormously. If you look at how Lama Tasi, Harrison Hansen and Cory Paterson have all handled their business, Theo has come across as very petulant in all of this. I accept his management team have orchestrated it all but ultimately the decisions lie with him. When that is said and done, it must have been tough for him to accept us signing Michael Dobson on a 4 year deal which effectively meant he wouldn't get the number 7 shirt until he was 25 - a stupid move by the club.

Theo is a good player, who has the potential to become very good. Don't forget the kid is only 21 and has played 66 games scoring 20 tries in the process. The vast majority of those games have been played in struggling Salford teams too. I expect under Cunningham and Longs management and training around James Roby, Luke Walsh and Jon Wilkin on a daily basis he will fulfil his very promising potential at Saints.

No doubt his biggest flaw is his kicking game, but what 21-year-old half backs do you know that can control a game in Super League with their kicking? We seen signs that this was already improving this season, no doubt influenced by Michael Dobson. He's tough and strong in defence for his size, his willingness to attack the line will impress as will his backing-up.

You've got yourself a good player, who I have no doubts will be your first choice 7 for years and years to come.

PS - should be announced either today or tomorrow.


Cheers for that. Good reasonable post.
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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:30 am  
Told you all it was a done deal. Saddened sorry I never replied to your PM months ago but I trusted my source.
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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 9:51 am  
I can't see Salford losing their case, but it is suggested there seems to be an agreement with his agent, but Salford will want a good fee, can you blame them? what will it be! Yes the club may want him will they dig deep?
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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:25 am  
The deals already been paid it says so in the article. it's the last year of his contract Saints are paying
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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:58 am  
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Just a comparison to our current half backs:

Walsh : 105 tackles, 45 missed in 16 games
Burns : 508 tackles, 74 missed in 25 games
Fages : 424 tackles, 48 missed in 19 games

Fages: 1005 meters gained (Walsh 346, Burns 780), gave away 7 penalties (Burns 23, Walsh 9)

His defensive stats don't look too bad in comparison to Burns and Walsh.

Perhaps he isn't as bad as some Salford fans, whose club he is leaving, make him out to be. :D


With the exception of one or two 'fans' I don't think any Salford fans have said anything unreasonable about his abilities. He's a natural HB that's potentially a diamond, but he needs some more polish before he gets there. You'll soon see what we mean. :)
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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:38 am  
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With the exception of one or two 'fans' I don't think any Salford fans have said anything unreasonable about his abilities. He's a natural HB that's potentially a diamond, but he needs some more polish before he gets there. You'll soon see what we mean. :)


Haha was only tongue in cheek mate. Looking forward to seeing him on a regular basis next year.
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Re: Theo fages : Wed Sep 23, 2015 12:16 pm  
If I was a Salford fan I would be pretty upset with how their halfbacks have been managed.

Both Sneyd and Fages leaving the club because Salford wanted to spend money on big names. It makes you very concerned when they cannot spot talent under their noses.

However their loss will be our gain. Hopefully Theo can fulfill his potential and be a big player for Saints and France for years to come.
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