Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:53 am  

LFC Saint wrote:

Conference called at langtree for tommorow morning at 9am. Eamonns acknowledging Keirons fantastic achievement of winning at Hull KR with a new 10 year deal.

Announcement of Fages playing in the next game and Sean Long will be attacking coach.

Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 7:58 am  

Mugwump wrote: Given our shocking record against HKR and an admittedly poor first half I thought the lads showed tremendous character to turn the match around and in the end win quite comfortably. Not sure what people want. With that wind blowing through the ground, low confidence and a vociferous home crowd shouting for anything I'm not sure throwing the ball around made any sense. Sure, we can play better. But you only need notice the difference in the side the moment Roby came on to know we've had some problems filling a full compliment of playmakers. If Lomax can get back in any kind of shape and we keep McDonnell and Roby fit we'll pose a lot more problems. ATEOTD it's a better result than we have been showing at HKR in years. Bang on Mugwump https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=co ... 875e4705o2

Mugwump wrote: Given our shocking record against HKR and an admittedly poor first half I thought the lads showed tremendous character to turn the match around and in the end win quite comfortably. Not sure what people want. With that wind blowing through the ground, low confidence and a vociferous home crowd shouting for anything I'm not sure throwing the ball around made any sense. Sure, we can play better. But you only need notice the difference in the side the moment Roby came on to know we've had some problems filling a full compliment of playmakers. If Lomax can get back in any kind of shape and we keep McDonnell and Roby fit we'll pose a lot more problems. ATEOTD it's a better result than we have been showing at HKR in years. Bang on Mugwump https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=co ... 875e4705o2

Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 8:50 am  

Judder Man wrote:

Next week against Castleford will be our best marker of which direction we are going improvement wise, just want an exciting game with full commitment.

I agree, you cannot decide on yesterdays game solely. Come Easter you have to play Leeds, Wigan and Widnes that will be a better indicator.

Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 9:25 am  

Outsider looking in but your attack is awful. Still can't see them sacking a man who has a statue outside the ground.

Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:33 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Given our shocking record against HKR and an admittedly poor first half I thought the lads showed tremendous character to turn the match around and in the end win quite comfortably.

Not sure what people want. With that wind blowing through the ground, low confidence and a vociferous home crowd shouting for anything I'm not sure throwing the ball around made any sense.

Sure, we can play better. But you only need notice the difference in the side the moment Roby came on to know we've had some problems filling a full compliment of playmakers. If Lomax can get back in any kind of shape and we keep McDonnell and Roby fit we'll pose a lot more problems.

ATEOTD it's a better result than we have been showing at HKR in years.

I'm all for looking for positives but you must be worried at the lack of enthusiasm and organization showed in the first half.

Highlighted by the kick off when Savelio got tackled behind his own line. Nobody showed any interest in the kick or taking a pass to drive it in! It was shocking.

You only improved when Roby came on.

Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:37 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Given our shocking record against HKR and an admittedly poor first half I thought the lads showed tremendous character to turn the match around and in the end win quite comfortably.

Not sure what people want. With that wind blowing through the ground, low confidence and a vociferous home crowd shouting for anything I'm not sure throwing the ball around made any sense.

Sure, we can play better. But you only need notice the difference in the side the moment Roby came on to know we've had some problems filling a full compliment of playmakers. If Lomax can get back in any kind of shape and we keep McDonnell and Roby fit we'll pose a lot more problems.

ATEOTD it's a better result than we have been showing at HKR in years.

Just to put this into perspective you beat a team tipped to finish in the bottom 4, with a far to thin squad to start with who also had out the following
1 half back plus the other for half the game, our back up is out as well
2 hookers
Loose forward for half the game, back up loose has a broken wrist.
Top try scoring winger and kicker

We had a totally good try chalked off and only really looked like losing once we lost 2 interchanges.

I honestly thought saints would be the team to beat this year but watching the last few weeks I can't see it. Leeds and Hudds have key people missing but you had enough on the pitch that should in all honesty be looking at beating our team last night by 40.

Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:39 am  

It's worth pointing out that - judged over both halves - we played better football against Hull KR last season.

And lost.

Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 10:47 am  

barham red wrote:

Just to put this into perspective you beat a team tipped to finish in the bottom 4, with a far to thin squad to start with who also had out the following
1 half back plus the other for half the game, our back up is out as well
2 hookers
Loose forward for half the game, back up loose has a broken wrist.
Top try scoring winger and kicker

Where Hull KR are tipped to finish and where they actually finish are two completely different things. As for injuries - we had plenty of them last season. Indeed, I seem to recall our stand-off having to play nearly the full game with a depressed cheekbone and fractured eye-socket after he was blantantly attacked to the head in the most obvious sending-off incident that wasn't.

We had a totally good try chalked off and only really looked like losing once we lost 2 interchanges.

I thought you had at least two tries chalked on after what seemed like clear forward passes. Luck evens itself out - or so they say.

And you looked like losing about ten seconds after James Roby appeared on the pitch.

I honestly thought saints would be the team to beat this year but watching the last few weeks I can't see it. Leeds and Hudds have key people missing but you had enough on the pitch that should in all honesty be looking at beating our team last night by 40.

Early season form means very little. We were the best team in the competition early last season. Huddersfield were one of the worst. Leeds were pretty poor, too.

As Jon Wilkin said - if Saints are playing this way at the end of the season then it's time to be worried. Not before.

Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:08 am  

davey37 wrote:

I'm all for looking for positives but you must be worried at the lack of enthusiasm and organization showed in the first half.

Highlighted by the kick off when Savelio got tackled behind his own line. Nobody showed any interest in the kick or taking a pass to drive it in! It was shocking.

We looked like a team playing a centre at stand-off, a stand-off at hooker and a winger as a strike centre with none of them having any aptitude for these roles.

You only improved when Roby came on.

Roby was crucial for two reasons. First his abilities - but perhaps more importantly he forced Saints into moving at least some of their players back into more familiar roles.

To be honest I thought the game-changer was Travis Burns getting himself binned. Up until that point many Saints players seemed to be strolling around the pitch as though they owned it. Certainly they weren't all that interested in shouldering the hard labour.

Burns was silly but in going toe-to-toe with a big forward he showed a few of our lads what it means to have some fire in your belly.

Travis gets a good deal of criticism and in some cases he deserves it. But the guy is unquestionably Hardcore.

Re: Sack the Coach : Sat Feb 27, 2016 11:11 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Where Hull KR are tipped to finish and where they actually finish are two completely different things. As for injuries - we had plenty of them last season. Indeed, I seem to recall our stand-off having to play nearly the full game with a depressed cheekbone and fractured eye-socket after he was blantantly attacked to the head in the most obvious sending-off incident that wasn't.

Sorry I must have missed that last year's injuries were relevant to last night's match.

We won the league and prem double in '86 so should have stuffed you last night...