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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:01 pm  
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The point I was making to SaintsFan though was more about this useless banging on about Gaskell. I dont know which Lee Gaskell she's been watching but the one who used to play for Saints has been terrible for 18 months and cant even get a run in the halves in the worst team in SL

Being terrible for Saints since Simmons left may be nothing whatsoever to do with Gaskell though.

Meanwhile, Gaskell has scored a hat trick for Salford today at London, playing from fullback which these days of course is similar to a halfback position, in attack at any rate. And reliable sources tell me that he fair kicked us around when Saints played Salford last week.

Clearly a terrible player and one we don't need. Obviously.
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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:15 pm  
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Being terrible for Saints since Simmons left may be nothing whatsoever to do with Gaskell though.

Meanwhile, Gaskell has scored a hat trick for Salford today at London, playing from fullback which these days of course is similar to a halfback position, in attack at any rate. And reliable sources tell me that he fair kicked us around when Saints played Salford last week.

Clearly a terrible player and one we don't need. Obviously.


He kicked us around that much Salford got battered by us. Fullback being similar (if you set your team up to play in that style) to halfback doesnt make it halfback it makes it fullback. He cant get in the Salford team in his preferred position so spin it however you like but that is a FACT.

I watched him on telly the other week playing fullback and he was non existent in attack and a turnstyle in defence, now that was probably because Salford were garbage but something tells me we haven't let the next Sam Tomkins go.

He's gone, he isnt coming back just like Simmons. Get over it.
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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:25 pm  
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He kicked us around that much Salford got battered by us. Fullback being similar (if you set your team up to play in that style) to halfback doesnt make it halfback it makes it fullback. He cant get in the Salford team in his preferred position so spin it however you like but that is a FACT.

I watched him on telly the other week playing fullback and he was non existent in attack and a turnstyle in defence, now that was probably because Salford were garbage but something tells me we haven't let the next Sam Tomkins go.

He's gone, he isnt coming back just like Simmons. Get over it.



It will be interesting to see where he turns up. We've had plenty of slackers and trouble makers in the past and been able to manage them. Yet with Moore and Gaskell we've lost that ability.

He's not been let go for Rugby reasons. He was let go for other reasons. My point is simple, he had us over a barrel. We needed halves and he was one of our last ones. Yet we ship him out because we can't manage him.

We should have kept him and played him regardless of attitude or regardless of who he has signed for next year. He has ability and we needed that.

He's gone now for good so no point wishing for him to come back. But if we had 3 or 4 halves all chopping to get a spot then you can play hardball. If we have one junior half left and he thinks he's the big I am, you don't ship him out and leave yourself with nothing for the year, except cobbling together halves from 2nd rowers, FB's, centre's and desperate loans from other teams.

Once again a player out manovering the club. Wilkin and Gaskell would have been much better than, the rest of the dross halfback pairing we've had and can still cobble together. It does not mean he would need to be in the team next year, but you use what you have.
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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:56 pm  
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He's not been let go for Rugby reasons. He was let go for other reasons. My point is simple, he had us over a barrel. We needed halves and he was one of our last ones. Yet we ship him out because we can't manage him.

Ironic, really, when you think we once tolerated the likes of Longy, who is a long way from being an angel or easy to manage!

We should have kept him and played him regardless of attitude or regardless of who he has signed for next year. He has ability and we needed that.

Exactly, exactly, EXACTLY!

That is what I was saying. Whoever made the call to get rid was stupid beyond words.
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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:56 pm  
I do wonder about how the show isrun as it does not seem to make any difference whoever the coach is.
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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:42 pm  
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It will be interesting to see where he turns up. We've had plenty of slackers and trouble makers in the past and been able to manage them. Yet with Moore and Gaskell we've lost that ability.

He's not been let go for Rugby reasons. He was let go for other reasons. My point is simple, he had us over a barrel. We needed halves and he was one of our last ones. Yet we ship him out because we can't manage him.

We should have kept him and played him regardless of attitude or regardless of who he has signed for next year. He has ability and we needed that.

He's gone now for good so no point wishing for him to come back. But if we had 3 or 4 halves all chopping to get a spot then you can play hardball. If we have one junior half left and he thinks he's the big I am, you don't ship him out and leave yourself with nothing for the year, except cobbling together halves from 2nd rowers, FB's, centre's and desperate loans from other teams.

Once again a player out manovering the club. Wilkin and Gaskell would have been much better than, the rest of the dross halfback pairing we've had and can still cobble together. It does not mean he would need to be in the team next year, but you use what you have.


Does anybody on here know what exactly he did wrong to be consigned to Salford?
It seems like a lot of people on here do as there is a lot of talk about him being a "problem", "bad attitude" etc but how did this manifest itself? Was it simply asking for a pay rise and not liking what he was offered?

Obviously Loz and No1 Saint do not think we are missing anything with not having him with us and I do accept that he isn't coming back, but I for one, think he would have been an improvement on what we have had all season at HB.

Even at FB where Salford played him today, this would have given us an extra option in attack with Lomax moving up to HB.
I was never happy when he left whatever the reason.
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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:58 pm  
Agent O'Brien congratulations on assisting in the destruction of the mighty Saints season. You are free to return to the homeland. :wink:
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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:04 pm  
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Agent O'Brien congratulations on assisting in the destruction of the mighty Saints season. You are free to return to the homeland. :wink:


Your not far wrong, he's been a disaster. I just hope we don't try and keep him.
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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:12 pm  
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Your not far wrong, he's been a disaster. I just hope we don't try and keep him.


It's a shame being honest. I've watched him for a number of years and he's been good. I just hope he's not reached his level and won't improve. I thought this move would have been good for all parties.
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Re: O'Brien : Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:35 pm  
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It's a shame being honest. I've watched him for a number of years and he's been good. I just hope he's not reached his level and won't improve. I thought this move would have been good for all parties.


To be honest he's looked good all the times I've seen him apart from his time at saints. Maybe its us.
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