FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Road to Old Trafford
::[url=//saints.org.uk](Website)[/url]
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12189No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 29 200717 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Jun 17 21:0629th May 17 09:59LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
where ever i am

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 8:48 am  
Judder Man wrote:
The question is if you know because of all the pivotal players missing you only have a 20% of winning the grand final, would you still want the team to qualfy to be there.


Every time
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11377
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 26 200222 years185th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Sep 24 11:5930th Aug 24 09:23LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Much too far South

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:21 am  
Judder Man wrote:
The question is if you know because of all the pivotal players missing you only have a 20% of winning the grand final, would you still want the team to qualfy to be there.


Last time I checked 20% was bigger than 0%, so of course I'd want the team to be there.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6767No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 29 200717 years250th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
31st Jul 24 22:088th Apr 24 09:16LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Now in Enemy Country
Signature
The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:27 am  
FearTheVee wrote:
Last time I checked 20% was bigger than 0%, so of course I'd want the team to be there.


That would be my answer if the odds where only 1%. I suppose the next question is there a cut off point where supporters would go to the final or watch it on sky or not bother at all.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Board Member11377
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 26 200222 years185th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Sep 24 11:5930th Aug 24 09:23LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Much too far South

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:31 am  
Judder Man wrote:
That would be my answer if the odds where only 1%. I suppose the next question is there a cut off point where supporters would go to the final or watch it on sky or not bother at all.


If people sit through five losses on the bounce then decide not to go to future finals for fear of losing, they're going to miss the reward when we win one. . . . which we will eventually (although I doubt it will be this year)
Albion 
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star2681No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 27 201113 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
25th Jul 17 10:1225th Jul 17 09:24LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:43 am  
NickyKiss wrote:
Strange things happen especially on big nights in high pressure circumstances like Old Trafford. I believe Saints will make OT now and regardless of it being Wigan or Warrington you face it will be a close fought game IMO. Your defending brilliantly at the moment and look really determined.

If we're lucky enough to make it through and we do play you I'll be incredibly nervous. There's a few seasons of derby dominance on the line and in the biggest one of them all we could get burned. There wouldn't be a great deal of pressure on you guys IMO and we could panic in that situation.

Interesting few weeks ahead anyway.


We have to get passed Hudds/Cas/Warrington/Catalan first and I don't think we will.

If we get there then you will destroy us, it will be painful but I'll still be there. It will be like the 2010 GF. Think that's the one where we drafted Matty Smith in and it didn't work.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8991
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 26 200915 years316th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
4th Sep 24 02:301st Jun 24 16:17LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leeds
Signature
We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:52 am  
Lets not forget every team has been patchy this year.

Wigan and Saints can't be sure where they stand as their opposition ran out of steam after 20 minutes and neither Huddersfield or Cas had their main halfback on the pitch to kick them out of trouble. Or to trouble the line.

Not sure why Sneyd was not playing???

I'm just happy that the saturday games where closer affairs, otherwise it would have been a terrible start to the playoffs.

Now the crowds should build as surely all teams in the next round will have a good chance of winning and the round after Saints know could be their last game of the season, unlike the first round were there is no route to the GF and no chance of being knocked out.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach12189No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 29 200717 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
8th Jun 17 21:0629th May 17 09:59LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
where ever i am

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:00 am  
Considering how tight the top 6 was , the results of the first two playoffs were a surprise. I expected much closer affairs
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5214No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 24 200618 years270th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
20th Sep 24 21:5512th Sep 24 09:50LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Another dimension
Signature
:CROWN: I am the hash browns of rlfans :CROWN:

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:51 am  
Saint Simon wrote:
Considering how tight the top 6 was , the results of the first two playoffs were a surprise. I expected much closer affairs


Saints were saving themselves for the playoffs :lol:
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1089No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 29 200519 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
16th Jun 18 00:1416th Jun 18 00:13LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Haydock, St Helens

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:04 am  
With Leeds out & Saints earning clubcall we have a very good chance now of reaching Old Trafford. An outstanding achievement w/o Lomax, Walsh & Wilkin for so long.

I don't hold much hope of winning the comp w/o any real pivots but I recall going to recent Saints grand finals & cursing the fact that it always teemed it down.

Due to personel we are playing top quality wet weather football ATM, decent kicking game, great chase & tackling has been exceptional. Our strength is currently in the forwards & with Walmsley returning & Thompson back in squad you can never say never. We can but dream, & the pressure is definitely off.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman12738No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 22 200123 yearsN/A
OnlineLast PostLast Page
23rd Jan 24 19:2529th Aug 20 12:40LINK
Milestone Posts
10000
15000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
The heart of gods Country, Haydock

Re: Road to Old Trafford : Sun Sep 21, 2014 12:05 pm  
Our chances of getting to Old Trafford are only marginally easier than they were after Friday evenings win against Cas.

This is merely because a 7th placed team defeated a 6th place team.
There is the argument that Leeds were weaker anyway due to the mental and physical fatigue of winning the challenge cup and were actually only the 7th best.

I would like to remind people of the other year when we defeated Wire comfortably in the first playoff game. Fans were cock a hoop, Wire then won their elimination match, came to Langtree park and smashed us out the ground.

All the teams left in the competition are capable of defeating Saints at Langtree park, if Saints are even slightly off their focus and the opposition is full primed.

As for the grand final. Wigan are clear favourites, but they were that for the challenge cup and looked what happened there this year.

IF we managed to get to the grand final and it was against Wigan we would be massive underdogs. I would not expect us to win. However I would regard getting to the final as a huge achievement and something to build upon for the following season.
IF we did defeat Wigan in the grand final it would be a huge result, however its not impossible. We defeated them on their own midden this year despite losing Walsh after just 20 minutes.

Being able to compete in playoff matches despite having no recognised half backs should be a huge psychological bonus going into next season. It means that even if opposition sides shut down our halves we can incorporate a plan B and still tough it out.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 86 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to St. Helens


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
David Hughes
Victor
2
1m
2025
BigTime
18
9m
Who do we want in the play-offs
karetaker
77
13m
2025 Fixtures
newcat
6
16m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Milky121086
3156
18m
Film game
karetaker
3820
19m
Other Championship Clubs
AgbriggAmble
318
36m
TV Games - Not Hull
Chris71
2829
39m
Recruitment rumours and links
Wires71
3084
49m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2257
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
38s
David Hughes
Victor
2
44s
2024 Dream Team
Cherry_Warri
13
46s
Recruitment rumours and links
Wires71
3084
51s
Who do we want in the play-offs
karetaker
77
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Jake the Peg
5129
1m
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
107
1m
bulls on Sunday
Jaffro
38
2m
Halifax A
Bullseye
20
3m
SL Dream Team 2024
Chesterrhino
9
3m
Loop fixtures 2025
easyWire
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
newcat
6
TODAY
SL Dream Team 2024
Chesterrhino
9
TODAY
2024 Dream Team
Cherry_Warri
13
TODAY
Loop fixtures 2025
easyWire
9
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition St Helens Home Play Off
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information Play Off Eliminator 27/9/24
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Swinton v Dons - Sunday 22 September 2024
weighman
5
TODAY
AJoshua
karetaker
1
TODAY
David Hughes
Victor
2
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Finish Seventh Hull Avoid the Wooden Spoon
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025
BigTime
18
TODAY
Season 2024
ArthurClues
37
TODAY
Hull KR Secure Second With Victory Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights match v London
Fantastic Mr
44
TODAY
Wembley photo
AgbriggAmble
3
TODAY
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trophy By Thrashing Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Barrow
westgaterunn
19
TODAY
Holly Spurr Interview
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
Wolves again
Uncle Rico
27
TODAY
Academy Players Promoted to First Team Squad
Simba16
2
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Saints
Jack Gaskell
6
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
331
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
382
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
491
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
978
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
762
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
873
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
896
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1206
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1123
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1219
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1377
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1256
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1602
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1721
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1856
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Sun 6th Oct
WSL2024
16:30
York V-St.HelensW
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 22nd Sep
CH 27 Batley28-14Swinton
CH 27 Halifax14-10Bradford
CH 27 Swinton20-22Doncaster
L1 24 Hunslet18-14Midlands
L1 24 Keighley26-22Rochdale
WSL2024 15 LeedsW10-12York V
WSL2024 15 St.HelensW18-4WiganW
Sat 21st Sep
SL 27 Hull FC4-24Catalans
CH 27 Featherstone50-12Dewsbury
CH 27 Widnes12-18Toulouse
CH27 Wakefield46-0Barrow
NRL 29 Sydney40-16Manly
Fri 20th Sep
SL 27 Hull KR26-16Leeds
SL 27 Leigh18-12St.Helens
SL 27 Warrington54-0LondonB
CH 27 Sheffield24-26York
NRL 29 Cronulla26-18NQL Cowboys
Thu 19th Sep
SL 27 Huddersfield34-10Castleford
SL 27 Wigan64-0Salford
Sun 15th Sep
WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 27 721 336 385 44
Hull KR 27 719 327 392 42
Warrington 27 738 319 419 40
Salford 27 550 547 3 32
Leigh 27 566 398 168 31
St.Helens 27 596 388 208 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 25 938 256 682 48
Toulouse 24 680 352 328 33
Bradford 25 628 387 241 32
York 26 639 463 176 28
Featherstone 25 616 484 132 28
Sheffield 25 618 498 120 28
 
Widnes 25 525 451 74 27
Doncaster 25 492 547 -55 25
Batley 25 406 527 -121 22
Halifax 25 489 627 -138 22
Barrow 24 418 694 -276 19
Swinton 26 474 620 -146 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 26 320 871 -551 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
David Hughes
Victor
2
1m
2025
BigTime
18
9m
Who do we want in the play-offs
karetaker
77
13m
2025 Fixtures
newcat
6
16m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Milky121086
3156
18m
Film game
karetaker
3820
19m
Other Championship Clubs
AgbriggAmble
318
36m
TV Games - Not Hull
Chris71
2829
39m
Recruitment rumours and links
Wires71
3084
49m
Rumours thread
Trojan Horse
2257
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
38s
David Hughes
Victor
2
44s
2024 Dream Team
Cherry_Warri
13
46s
Recruitment rumours and links
Wires71
3084
51s
Who do we want in the play-offs
karetaker
77
1m
Shopping list for 2025
Jake the Peg
5129
1m
Planning for next season
Jack Gaskell
107
1m
bulls on Sunday
Jaffro
38
2m
Halifax A
Bullseye
20
3m
SL Dream Team 2024
Chesterrhino
9
3m
Loop fixtures 2025
easyWire
9
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
newcat
6
TODAY
SL Dream Team 2024
Chesterrhino
9
TODAY
2024 Dream Team
Cherry_Warri
13
TODAY
Loop fixtures 2025
easyWire
9
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition St Helens Home Play Off
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Salford Away Travel Information Play Off Eliminator 27/9/24
LancashireRe
1
TODAY
Swinton v Dons - Sunday 22 September 2024
weighman
5
TODAY
AJoshua
karetaker
1
TODAY
David Hughes
Victor
2
TODAY
Catalans Dragons Finish Seventh Hull Avoid the Wooden Spoon
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025
BigTime
18
TODAY
Season 2024
ArthurClues
37
TODAY
Hull KR Secure Second With Victory Over Leeds
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Tonights match v London
Fantastic Mr
44
TODAY
Wembley photo
AgbriggAmble
3
TODAY
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trophy By Thrashing Salford
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Barrow
westgaterunn
19
TODAY
Holly Spurr Interview
JamieRobinso
1
TODAY
Wolves again
Uncle Rico
27
TODAY
Academy Players Promoted to First Team Squad
Simba16
2
TODAY
Squads - Leopards v Saints
Jack Gaskell
6
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Catalans Dragons Finish Sevent..
331
Hull KR Secure Second With Vic..
382
Wigan Seal League Leaders Trop..
491
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
978
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
762
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
873
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
896
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
1206
Salford Close In On The Play O..
1123
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
1219
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
1377
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
1256
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1602
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1721
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1856


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!