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Re: New coach set to be announced : Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:04 pm  
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A league leaders shield, grand final win and a semi final defeat by a point to Leeds at headingley isn't a to shabby record in my mortal opinion.

Tell me, what was it Royce won ? :wink:


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Re: New coach set to be announced : Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:06 pm  
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:lol:

Nice guy tho Royce. Shame he couldn't coach
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Re: New coach set to be announced : Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:53 pm  
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He had to work with a very different group of players in 2012. The recruitment by the club since then has been superb.

It is now younger, quicker, more balanced and more talented. Look at the players wearing 6 and 7 in 2015 and compare it to 2012. Same with the wingers. We now have a better forward pack too.

Our six and seven were Wilkin and Hohaia in 2012 weren't they? Gaskell was dropped once Simmons left, bar I think two matches. Much as they were last year and quite often this year as well!

Our wingers? Tommy Makinson played much of 2012 because Gardner was injured. Sadly we did still have Meli, although Simmons wisely moved him to centre, a decision Cunningham/Rush foolishly reversed.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Gardner back on the wing if Cunningham does get the job on Monday. :wink:
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Re: New coach set to be announced : Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:55 pm  
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Nice guy tho Royce. Shame he couldn't coach

The young players thought otherwise.

Funny how Brown was let go a year before his contract was up.
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Re: New coach set to be announced : Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:00 pm  
Shame no-one else did. He was useless, coaching marginally worse than his signings. Brown asked for a release for well documented family reasons how difficult is that to comprehend?
Simmons on the other hand was bombed out, thank god. Brown has gradually transformed the squad & age, brought through some quality youth & more ie Savelio on the way.
Then again it's highely possible everyone else is wrong & the minority of one spot on.
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Re: New coach set to be announced : Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:31 pm  
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Our six and seven were Wilkin and Hohaia in 2012 weren't they? Gaskell was dropped once Simmons left, bar I think two matches. Much as they were last year and quite often this year as well!

Our wingers? Tommy Makinson played much of 2012 because Gardner was injured. Sadly we did still have Meli, although Simmons wisely moved him to centre, a decision Cunningham/Rush foolishly reversed.

It wouldn't surprise me to see Gardner back on the wing if Cunningham does get the job on Monday. :wink:


The answer to your first question is no. In 2012, our 6 and 7 where Hohaia and Lomax. So you got that one wrong!!!

Our wingers where Meli and Gardner initially. As the season went on Makinson came in and played well so kept his place in the side.

We had Wello at FB and our starting props where Laffranchi and Perry. We had Clough, Flannery and Puletua playing too.

Compare that with Amor and Walmsley as starting props. A quick and exciting back 3 of Lomax, Makinson and Swift. A half-back combo of Burns and Walsh (two actual half-backs). The potential of Percival. The youth and energy of the likes of Thompson, Richards and Greenwood (to name just three).

The side has been transformed from 2012. KC (if he does get the job) has a different team to coach.
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Re: New coach set to be announced : Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:21 am  
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The young players thought otherwise.

Funny how Brown was let go a year before his contract was up.


He requested release which was granted.

Sia also had a year left on his deal and went a year early. Does that make him a bad player?
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Re: New coach set to be announced : Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:33 am  
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He requested release which was granted.

He requested permission to apply for the Wests job which was given and then the club 'willingly agreed' an early release 'regardless'. Fans have just swallowed it whole without question. How often do coaches receive such grace a year ahead of their contract being completed?

Sia also had a year left on his deal and went a year early. Does that make him a bad player?

We've known all season about that. And there is nothing unusual in a player seeking an early return. Usually it's homesickness that gets them.
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Re: New coach set to be announced : Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:41 am  
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He requested permission to apply for the Wests job which was given and then the club 'willingly agreed' an early release 'regardless'. Fans have just swallowed it whole without question. How often do coaches receive such grace a year ahead of their contract being completed?

We've known all season about that. And there is nothing unusual in a player seeking an early return. Usually it's homesickness that gets them.


I knew in July that Brown wanted to go home and I also know the real family issues to why he's gone home. The wests job fell at the right time for him.

Brown will be remembered for laying the foundations of a good quality squad abd doing the double.


Royce will be remembered for his woeful recruitment, shocking team selections, only having 3 players on the bench, winning nothing and getting sacked.
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Re: New coach set to be announced : Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:42 am  
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The answer to your first question is no. In 2012, our 6 and 7 where Hohaia and Lomax. So you got that one wrong!!!

I didnt. I asked 'weren't they?' Did you notice the question mark at the end? That means a question.

The side has been transformed from 2012. KC (if he does get the job) has a different team to coach.

Indeed. Good job all those contracts came to an end when they did and that the chairman finally agreed to money being available for new players! But then we'd built the stadium by 2012 so the club's attention and resources could finally be refocused on to the pitch by 2013.
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