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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:05 am  
Seems like another face sadly never fitted? I rated him highly, agents? we know better than any club! lol
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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:05 am  
FearTheVee wrote:
"we're not even managing to keep the young players we produce either."

Like?


Jones and Savelio are off if these rumours are to be believed.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:14 am  
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Jones and Savelio are off if these rumours are to be believed.


So a squad player who wouldn't make a fully fit team at centre or back row is leaving as a RU team has offered him money that we'd be silly to match.

Plus a rumour.

Calm down chicken licken. If it wasn't for another ridiculous run of injuries we'd be miles clear at the top of SL, maybe the club know a thing or two about assembling and retaining a competitive squad?
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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:28 am  
FearTheVee wrote:
So a squad player who wouldn't make a fully fit team at centre or back row is leaving as a RU team has offered him money that we'd be silly to match.

Plus a rumour.

Calm down chicken licken. If it wasn't for another ridiculous run of injuries we'd be miles clear at the top of SL, maybe the club know a thing or two about assembling and retaining a competitive squad?


Perhaps they do, doesn't mean I can't moan about it though :lol:

You lot are too trusting though. We won last year, doesn't mean we should kick back and enjoy that glory for the next five years. Early days yet, but we're back to the ins and outs being daft again.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:38 am  
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You lot are too trusting though. We won last year, doesn't mean we should kick back and enjoy that glory for the next five years. Early days yet, but we're back to the ins and outs being daft again..

Maybe people trust the club because their track record of building a successful team is pretty good? Certainly judging by the trophy cabinet :D
Also it might be best waiting till the ins and outs are complete before passing judgement eh?
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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 9:45 am  
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Also it might be best waiting till the ins and outs are complete before passing judgement eh?


I agree. But doesn't mean I can't moan about it. I've got to keep the club on it's toes.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:31 am  
I'd heard a few weeks back that Savelio may be on the move, but I expected that it was to Aus not Wire. It's a difficult one for Saints. If he has been offered a big contract elsewhere, should they match it?

What happens then when the next good young player comes through, do they pay over the odds for him too?

Saints will have put a value on him, and maybe they have been pushed into an auction and said at some point no. I know that's exactly what happened at Wigan with Ben Currie.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:42 am  
Rogues Gallery wrote:
I'd heard a few weeks back that Savelio may be on the move, but I expected that it was to Aus not Wire. It's a difficult one for Saints. If he has been offered a big contract elsewhere, should they match it?

What happens then when the next good young player comes through, do they pay over the odds for him too?

Saints will have put a value on him, and maybe they have been pushed into an auction and said at some point no. I know that's exactly what happened at Wigan with Ben Currie.

Although he hadn't progresses as far as Savelio, we had a similar incident with Andy Braceck. He was the same age as Jammer and was also a star in the under-whatevers. He wanted more than Saints were willing to pay and, in hindsight, the club were absolutely correct. At the same time, we've stuck Lomax on a much improved contract and not exactly had got VFM on that one, depsite his talent, before that, we didn't hedge for Eastmond and really got stung.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:46 am  
Saddened! wrote:
If a player wants to play NRL, he's got to show he's worth it. He's got to stand out and play consistently well.


Give over. Sure, the NRL is ahead of SL. But if you think it's a full-blown meritocracy you've swallowed too much of the hype.

Ask any Knights fan what they think the single biggest aid to Darius Boyd's career is.

If Warrington sign Savelio, they will do so on a four year deal. Two good seasons for them, then sell him for a few hundred thousand pounds.


If Warrington sign Savelio it will be at an inflated cost for a player who still hasn't locked down a first team jersey. Bear in mind that this is a player who is still RECOVERING from a debilitating physical and psychological ailment, the ramifications of which are UNKNOWN. Throw in the fact that he's marking time for the NRL and it's a no-brainer.

You all blindly support the club no matter what they do. I was absolutely bang on about the club neglecting the playing staff post KC/Scully and unless the club starts waking up it's going to happen again. Not only are we not in the bidding for the big names anymore, we're not even managing to keep the young players we produce either. That's a bad combination.


Well ... duh! That's kind of what "supporters" are meant to do. What are you, some kind of half-assed "conditional supporter"? As for me "blindly supporting the club, no matter what they do" - this is a BARE-FACED LIE and you know it.

Trumpeting how "bang on" you are in a hysterical rant over losing a player who hasn't even been officially recognised as gone yet is about as plain an example of self-deception as I can think of.

But I'm prepared to play this game and recognise your divine powers of fortune telling if first you can tell me how many times you've been WRONG.

But hey ho, we've managed to tie down Matty Dawson :roll:


For heaven's sake, grow up. You know as well as I do that even if we somehow possessed the finances to assemble the RL equivalent of the Harlem Globetrotters - the limits imposed by the salary cap preclude the possibility entirely. Which means TOUGH, UNSENTIMENTAL and ADULT decisions have to be made on which players receive the bulk of our salary quota.

The claim that Saints aren't "bidding for the big names" or that "we're not managing to keep the young players" is pure fantasy.

In any case, these are PROFESSIONAL rugby league players. Whilst their motivations will vary the issue of MONEY will be at the top of many's requirements. And if another club is willing to pay above the market rate you can be sure that no amount of "good will" on the club's part will stand in their way of acquiring it.
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Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 11:24 am  
Saying all that, top players rarely move between the top SL clubs, do they?
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