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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:40 am  
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Sounds as though Lenegan is leading an effective revolt of SL clubs over the RFL's failure to provide sponsorship or satisfactory coverage for the game. Could potentially scupper the proposed restructure. This is from Chris Irvine on Twitter.


There's a lot more too it than that, and it's not just Wigan and Saints. We should know the full story in the next few days. Could be fun!!!!
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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:50 am  
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There's a lot more too it than that, and it's not just Wigan and Saints. We should know the full story in the next few days. Could be fun!!!!

Is it something that you expect will lead to positive developments for the game?
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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:18 am  
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There's a lot more too it than that, and it's not just Wigan and Saints. We should know the full story in the next few days. Could be fun!!!!


Stop it with the teasing! Just put it out there, or if it's potentially incriminating/scandalous then PM me.
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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:34 am  
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Stop it with the teasing! Just put it out there, or if it's potentially incriminating/scandalous then PM me.



Remember 1895. :shock:
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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 11:44 am  
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If it's so good on there what are you doing on here? :wink:


Like Nigel Wood but for different reason's I manage to be everywhere at once. No commend on Ape man?
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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:41 pm  
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Sounds as though Lenegan is leading an effective revolt of SL clubs over the RFL's failure to provide sponsorship or satisfactory coverage for the game. Could potentially scupper the proposed restructure. This is from Chris Irvine on Twitter.


Supported by Eamon McManus but I understand that Leeds and wakefield are not happy!
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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:50 pm  
A bit more here.

Revolution?

http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_134 ... ystem.html?

What a load of rubbish. Micro managing the clubs didn't give them time to source commercial sponsorship.
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Revolution?

http://www.loverugbyleague.com/news_134 ... ystem.html?

What a load of rubbish. Micro managing the clubs didn't give them time to source commercial sponsorship.
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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:03 pm  
Well our McManus has been banging the drum about restructuring the game in the right manner for about 2 seasons now.
The RFL have reduced the game to well below expectations, perhaps we will end up with a 10 team superleague, trouble is the timing might be off with the current economic climate.
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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:52 pm  
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Well our McManus has been banging the drum about restructuring the game in the right manner for about 2 seasons now.

Except a Superleague take over isn't the right manner. Its the manner of a few self-interested chairman, with the obnoxious Leneghan at the forefront, may the gods help us.

The RFL clearly needs to change. It's full of administrators and little else. The media department don't know how to deal with the media. Nobody has an ounce of creativity or dynamism about them. But what we don't need is a bunch of rich chairmen protecting their own investments in charge. Read League Weekly to get a fuller report on what this is all about. And they kick up this fuss right before the world cup. That'll bring the punters (and following money) into the game obviously. Arrogant fools.
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Re: One thing we MUST learn from Wigan : Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:16 pm  
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Except a Superleague take over isn't the right manner. Its the manner of a few self-interested chairman, with the obnoxious Leneghan at the forefront, may the gods help us.

The RFL clearly needs to change. It's full of administrators and little else. The media department don't know how to deal with the media. Nobody has an ounce of creativity or dynamism about them. But what we don't need is a bunch of rich chairmen protecting their own investments in charge. Read League Weekly to get a fuller report on what this is all about. And they kick up this fuss right before the world cup. That'll bring the punters (and following money) into the game obviously. Arrogant fools.


I think I would prefer to take the risk of rich chairmen shaking things up for better or worse than the RFL taking us rock bottom into obscurity.
Less player participtation, less sponsorship, less media prescence, less funding, less investment is the ideal recipe for the collapse of rugby league as a professional sport.
The timing of the situation, maybe the chairmen don,t want the RFL to hide behind a possible successful world cup and short term paper over the cracks.
We,ve had no sponsor for superleague this season and maybe there is no sponsor for next season as well, 30k price money for the games top competion is a total disgrace. Will the rich chairmen see the game is no longer a viable proposition or will they fight to re structure the game, I think it will be the latter.
I can see more clubs joining up for re structure with perhaps only the weakened financial clubs in London, Bradford, Wakefield and Castleford not going with the flow. The RFL have already cancelled this Wednesdays meeting so maybe thats an early sign of clubs taking control and taking the fight to the RFL.
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