Re: Theo Fages : Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:00 pm  

Mugwump wrote:

It's different because since the beginning of SL the demand that players AT THE VERY LEAST are expected to finish in a playoff slot and get damned close to an Old Trafford appearance is what Saints players deal with as a matter of routine and Salford players demonstrably do not.

To be honest I'm amazed I need to illustrate this point. It's like saying 60 games playing for Manchester City or Chelsea or Barcelona or Real Madrid is equivalent to 60 games playing for AFC Bournemouth or Levante.

You really do talk rubbish,it's all superleague experience,doesn't matter who it's for, it's against the same teams we play.

Re: Theo Fages : Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:08 am  

brook40 wrote:

You really do talk rubbish,it's all superleague experience,doesn't matter who it's for, it's against the same teams we play.

When you get out of bed in a morning do you need written instructions telling you how to put one foot in front of the other? The important point here is NOT the fact that at Salford he's playing against exactly the same group of teams (except Salford) as he would be here. It's that he's doing so within Salford's frame of reference - which since I can remember has been one long chain of miserable failures stretching back decades.

Players routinely talk about a change in "mindset" when moving from less successful clubs to Saints or Leeds or Wigan etc. So even though they are still playing against the same teams - they are doing so with a fundamentally different appreciation of what is required of them.

Some players can handle this step up. Others can't. Good examples are Michael Shenton & Danny Orr. Two uncultured barbarians from Castleford who looked to be SL bigshots until they arrived at St. Helens and Wigan respectively where they couldn't cope with interior toilets, running water and quilted toilet paper.

Re: Theo Fages : Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:28 am  

Mugwump wrote:

Some players can handle this step up. Others can't. Good examples are Michael Shenton & Danny Orr. Two uncultured barbarians from Castleford who looked to be SL bigshots until they arrived at St. Helens and Wigan respectively where they couldn't cope with interior toilets, running water and quilted toilet paper.

Proper LOL at that

Re: Theo Fages : Wed Feb 24, 2016 10:42 am  

Jesus I've read some rubbish in my time on here but some posts on this thread are embarrassing

Re: Theo Fages : Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:06 am  

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Re: Theo Fages : Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:10 am  

Mugwump wrote: Some players can handle this step up. Others can't. Good examples are Michael Shenton & Danny Orr. Two uncultured barbarians from Castleford who looked to be SL bigshots until they arrived at St. Helens and Wigan respectively where they couldn't cope with interior toilets, running water and quilted toilet paper. Hmmmmm I can see them now having to go into Carr Mill Woods or Haigh Hall Woods with there own supply of "John Wayne" toilet paper from the grocery shop in the "Last of the Summer Wine" livery. Izal Toilet Paper Chad Valley offer by Alan Gold, on Flickr

Mugwump wrote: Some players can handle this step up. Others can't. Good examples are Michael Shenton & Danny Orr. Two uncultured barbarians from Castleford who looked to be SL bigshots until they arrived at St. Helens and Wigan respectively where they couldn't cope with interior toilets, running water and quilted toilet paper. Hmmmmm I can see them now having to go into Carr Mill Woods or Haigh Hall Woods with there own supply of "John Wayne" toilet paper from the grocery shop in the "Last of the Summer Wine" livery. Izal Toilet Paper Chad Valley offer by Alan Gold, on Flickr

Re: Theo Fages : Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:45 am  

This forum reads like the Wire one in the final days of Cullen as slowly but surely more people come round to the view that the Coach isn't up to the job but some stubbornly cling on... I was a clinger, but not an apologist....

Re: Theo Fages : Wed Feb 24, 2016 2:05 pm  

If this phenomenon didn't exist we wouldn't have invented terms such as "Small Town Player".

Re: Theo Fages : Thu Feb 25, 2016 10:40 pm  

If I was him I'd think that I'd made a big mistake.

No playing time and if he ever does get a shirt his game will be heavily restricted

Re: Theo Fages : Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:23 pm  

Rumoured to be coming to Hull KR on a months loan. Anyone heard anything about this?