Re: The injuries & Hiho : Mon May 05, 2014 9:47 am  

St pete wrote:

I agree it was tougher in the build up and post Easter but the players had a rest at Widnes and went into the Leeds game fresh and some might say battle hardned.

Lomax, swift, Turner, Percy, Walsh, Amor, Roby, walmsley etc off the top of my head was rested at Widnes so they had 7 days off to rest and prepare which is more than enough.

Swift had 3 weeks rest, turner played 1 game in 3 weeks, Percy month off, Walsh had 3 weeks off this year, Amor had 3/4 weeks off this year, Wilkin had 3 game ban, Lms 2 game ban so it's not like we have been flogged, in fact most the team should be fresh.

Add that to some close intense games, we actually could say we had a very good prep for the Leeds game. It's not great going into a big game without being in deep water, it's not the best going into the Leeds game smashing Eveyone and it's not great going in tired which we couldn't have been.

We are making excuses up and the isn't any. It's simple, if the other team puts 100% effort in and we put 70% effort in and with Wigan and Leeds ability they will win.


So basically -


Was we too tired ? No!

Was we battle hardened for the game ? Yes!


Did we play to our ability ? No!

Was we committed ? No!

Like I say we should have been better no doubt, but these 3 games don't have to pan out to be a reader for the rest of the season.

I'm a glass half full kinda guy.

We are nearly half the way through the season and league wise regards to wins and losses there is one point between us and Leeds and we where the ones to take those 2 points off them.

Re: The injuries & Hiho : Mon May 05, 2014 9:51 am  

bewareshadows wrote:

Like I say we should have been better no doubt, but these 3 games don't have to pan out to be a reader for the rest of the season.

I'm a glass half full kinda guy.

We are nearly half the way through the season and league wise regards to wins and losses there is one point between us and Leeds and we where the ones to take those 2 points off them.

Aye, if have took two games lost at the half way point and one game we fielded at weakened team (still good enough to win that day). I think if we went to Widnes with full team we'd prob win.

Can't knock the position in the table. Second is very good but it's the performances we've been putting in which is the worry. I know you'll say it's about peaking in September and not May and I agree but the way Leeds and Wigan beat us has left me worried. I don't think we can win then type of ganes, if you can't win them games, you can't win the grand final.

We won't finish in the top 2 and I highly doubt a old Trafford appearance .

Re: The injuries & Hiho : Mon May 05, 2014 9:59 am  

If we lose to Wigan in the same manner come the return leg, I may start to worry.

But I still remember the season at Widnes were we lost against all the big guns in every game that year.

We drew Wigan twice in the playoffs and we beat them twice.

I'd be happy if our defense tightens up as that is what will win a final. But it only needs to improve slowly. We won't fix it all by Millenium weekend.

Re: The injuries & Hiho : Mon May 05, 2014 10:04 am  

Our league position is very strong at his stage. Leeds are the stand out team so far this season so to be in their sights is a good place to be. If we can finish top 2 (and that should be our aim) then we should all be very happy.

The worry for me is our recent performances especially defensively. Compare our points against to Leeds and it is miles apart. Our points for is slightly behind them so I'm not too concerned about that but we're shipping in far too many points and this has to be the focus or the rest of the season. Come the play offs,you simpl cannot afford to be shipping in so many points, the defence has to be at it's best.

Re: The injuries & Hiho : Mon May 05, 2014 6:30 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

I do think we are living in the past and looking through rose tinted spectacles at times. I recall many a season going to Wakey and Salford with the golden generation expecting easy games only to get turned over.

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I agree I remember them too but invariably we would raise our game on the big occasion , I'm not sure we have the people to do that these days.