Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:43 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

No one has asked you to. And you are assuming that just as much as I'm assuming we're just being tight with offers to save money.

I didn't "assume" Savelio's pretext. This issue hasn't just appeared out of the blue. I've known about it since last December (perhaps even earlier).

If Savelio wanted more money and was prepared to go back on his commitment to Australia he's had ample opportunity to set the record straight.

Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:45 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

??

[Young] my bad.

Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:00 pm  

Hawkandro wrote:

You'd maybe understand if he is getting no game time whatsoever and it was Leeds or Wigan that wanted him; you know, a club that stands a chance of winning a trophy, but to join Warrington? It must be pure greed, because they sure as sh*t won't win a trophy in his time with them.

I'll bite. Warrington don't stand a chance of winning a trophy but have won 4 in the last 5 years.

Already signed Gidley, Lineham and potentially Sandow, I think we do.

Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:06 pm  

Player joins another club for more money shocker!! Can't believe it...burn him. Wanting a better wage the greedy get.

Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:10 pm  

ratticusfinch wrote:

Player joins another club for more money shocker!! Can't believe it...burn him. Wanting a better wage the greedy get.

Normally, I fully agree. However given the difficulties he's had, and the loyalty and patience Saints have shown him, I struggle to believe that most decent human beings would be willing to repay that, at least to some extent. The hardball nature of his agents negotiating, along with the rumours that seemingly follow him, makes it a very bitter pill to swallow, if indeed there are anything in these rumours.

I suspect we'll learn a lot more on Sunday

Edit: got my days mixed up in my old age

Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:26 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

Normally, I fully agree. However given the difficulties he's had, and the loyalty and patience Saints have shown him, I struggle to believe that most decent human beings would be willing to repay that, at least to some extent. The hardball nature of his agents negotiating, along with the rumours that seemingly follow him, makes it a very bitter pill to swallow, if indeed there are anything in these rumours.

I suspect we'll learn a lot more on Sunday

Edit: got my days mixed up in my old age

We don't know if any of that is true! How would the approach of an agent in negotiations with the club get out exactly? Very unprofessional if it has!

Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:29 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

I'll bite. Warrington don't stand a chance of winning a trophy but have won 4 in the last 5 years.

Already signed Gidley, Lineham and potentially Sandow, I think we do.

I was about to question that, but you got the league leaders in 2011. Lineham should be an excellent signing, are you losing Monaghan or is he staying on? Gidley will either be as good as Hodgeson or as disastrous as Bowen, or somewhere in between.

I don't know enough about Sandow to comment.

I still, as a young prop forward, wouldn't be leaving Saints for Wire unless there was a substantial pay increase.

Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:47 pm  

Rugby league is his job. Forget loyalty crap, he's here to make money. It's easy to watch from your fans seat and say he's not loyal but would you stay in your current Job if another company offered you more money ?

At the end of the day sav has probably 12 years to make what he can and hope he's lucky with injuries. I want to him stay but I know it's their living and not just sport.

Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:19 pm  

"Second, I find it hard to believe that this board's resident Pandora finds it inconceivable that a player who is willing to string his club along with a fictitious rationale whilst negotiating against them will do so again (with far greater consequences). "

Must admit I see Saddened as more of a Cassandra figure myself; at least Pandora eventually let out Hope after trapping her in the box, and I've never seen much evidence that hope plays much part in Saddened's on-line persona.

Re: Andre Savelio : Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:09 pm  

St pete wrote:

Rugby league is his job. Forget loyalty crap, he's here to make money. It's easy to watch from your fans seat and say he's not loyal but would you stay in your current Job if another company offered you more money ?

At the end of the day sav has probably 12 years to make what he can and hope he's lucky with injuries. I want to him stay but I know it's their living and not just sport.

If my company had developed me over several years, supported me through a debilitating illness and then promoted me, I would feel like I at least owed that company a bit of loyalty yes.

I'm not saying he owes us loyalty forever, and if he wants to go and follow his dream of the NRL one day, he goes with our blessing when he's firmly established, but Warrington for a bit more money?!