Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:12 pm  

As expected Cunningham ducks any sort of responsibility.

Said on sky that he could smell complacency before the match.

I dispair....

Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:12 pm  

FearTheVee wrote:

Is luke Walsh the softest ever saints player. . . . ?

He plays the game like he's terrified of contact.

I'd say Turner and Tasi are just as bad.

Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:14 pm  

We need to sign an average utility player, quickstyle. Something to appease the fans...

Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:15 pm  

Twentyman wrote:

Cunningham will learn from it. The lads will learn from it. Very harsh but necessary lesson.

Will he? Clueless as a coach for me, it's going to be particularly painful watching us struggle under KC and watching him destroy his own legacy.

Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:17 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

KC basically admitting he's not got a clue there. Admitted he knew they were complacent and couldn't do a damn thing about it. He's called the player's attitudes into question, said he asked for a response and got nothing. If that's the case, there isn't much of a future there really is there?

A lot of you on here mocked me when I said we'd struggle to make the top four. As poor as the rest of Super League is, we're now well amongst the middle of the table sides. If this poor attitude continues, we'll struggle to make the top 6 this season.

Our recruitment? Utterly pathetic. Jack Owens isn't a St Helens player. He's not a Super League player and whoever made the decision to sign him needs looking at. Even more worrying is that we're chasing another Widnes player rather than being ambitious. At best this season we'll have a season like Warrington and Hull did last year. What we won't do is recruit like they have.

I said it before the season started that Saints fans need to lower our expectations. We're not capable of winning trophies anymore. We've got a squad of average players and only Roby and Walsmley with any real quality. When either is out we'll lose, if both were out I'd guarantee it. Top 6 would be an achievement for this team.

I for one don't think we will make top 4. To many teams have recruited well and we haven't.

Sky was saying post game how the dry weather will benefit us but I disagree, we are no longer a dry track team, we are wet weather team who then can grind a win out.

Tbe days of champagne rugby are well gone.

Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:18 pm  

Just heard the result, did Fages get on the pitch or was he sat on his backside like Burns. Looks like LMS and Greenwood for centres next week because KC is totally committed to proving at all costs that Turner is a no 6.............not.

Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:18 pm  

Albion wrote:

As expected Cunningham ducks any sort of responsibility.

Said on sky that he could smell complacency before the match.

I dispair....

Is complacency one of your new signings?

Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:21 pm  

Gazwire wrote:

Is complacency one of your new signings?

Yeah, he is a lightweight centre/2nd rower.

Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:22 pm  

St pete wrote:

Yes Salford definitely title contenders now. The bookies stopped taking bets on it.

If you read my original post, you will see I'm not having a pop at Salford as they have shown us up in every department and we'll worth the win and the score. I'm just pointing out to NickyKiss that Wigan loss to cas is different to our loss tonight.

Cas were/are a better side but I wouldn't write Salfird off either. They've made some shrewd signings and after a hiccup last week (against a hugely fired up and hyped Hull team) they showed it tonight. Sometimes you start games slowly and you get burned. It reminded of our game with Cas for sure but I really do feel it may be the kick up the backside you need.

You've a few lads to come back in including your best player and leader so I wouldn't be writing the season off yet. I don't know what KC's issue is with Burns but you'd have to think he'd have been a better option at 9 then the young kid tonight (who had a mare).

Re: 19 man Squad v Salford : Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:23 pm  

Judder Man wrote:

Just heard the result, did Fages get on the pitch or was he sat on his backside like Burns. Looks like LMS and Greenwood for centres next week because KC is totally committed to proving at all costs that Turner is a no 6.............not.

From memory he came on after about 55 minutes and did absolutely nothing.

You missed it? Great for you, you can pretend we're still a good side. The first half was the worst I've ever seen Saints play. It was so poor that there really have to be questions tomorrow. I'm sure the club won't sack KC, but it was one of those performances that require action. Something has to be done, whether it's a new captain, an apology from the players or a change of tactics and ideas. They can fix it all by ripping into Sydney Roosters next week, but I doubt they'll have the ability to prevent them from scoring.